If you have it set up by an ISF engineer, it will be calibrated to SMPTE specifications. To cut a long story short, this means the TV will be set up to give you the picture, the movie director (for example) wanted you to experience.So now I'm a tad confused!!
Is calibration something exact, or is it open to personal taste? If it's an exact thing, why don't all sets come from the factory with the optimum settings applied?
There are quite a few around now.Are there companies around that specialise in this, or can you do it yourself?
So, if that's the case, why don't Sony, samsung etc send them out already calibrated?
Also, can you do it yourself or is it too involved for a Simple Joe?
I'm not being awkward, just curious!!
Thanks again, things are a little clearer now.
However, I've just done a little Googling and come up with prices around the £250 mark!!!
That's more than half the cost of my TV!!! Is it really worth that much?
Gordon whats your thoughts on calibration of Phillips products say 42PFL9703 for example? Are these new tv sets tolerences closer making their pq more accurate so harder or less worthwhile to adjust?
Yeah, but you use dynamic. You're not in the target market.I disagree I think it is a load of hype. I challenge anyone to set my TV up to give a picture that is better than the way I want it!
So, where do I go from here?
Do I just play around with the controls and risk completely mucking it up, play dumb, plead ignorance and stick with the factory settings, or is there a resource that you can refer to that will give generic ball park settings?
Yeah, but you use dynamic. You're not in the target market.
I've always thought of calibration as trying to set your television so it has as little effect as possible on the picture on the DVD. I want to see the colours that are on the disc, I don't want them to be affected by any other part of my setup, including the television.
On televisions where the controls are available, calibration makes a big difference. Not only that, but a calibrator should also be able to work out which are the best devices to perform scaling and deinterlacing so you get the best out of what you've got.
I would ask for a refund if the picture at the cinema was anywhere near akin to how sets look on dynamic mode, they're called cinema or movie for a reason, because they're closer to the standards to which all cinemas should be working.If I watch a DVD then I want it to look as close as possible to what I see in the Cinema - I dont get that using the "calibration" approach, or so called Cinema or Movie pre sets.
I would ask for a refund if the picture at the cinema was anywhere near akin to how sets look on dynamic mode, they're called cinema or movie for a reason, because they're closer to the standards to which all cinemas should be working.
Many televisions can look a bit to dull on the out-of-the-box movie preset due to incorrect greyscale, black/white point and the like, if that's sorted out, it should be a lot better. If you read the posts of people who had their Pioneers ISF calibrated many people report these kind of effects. i.e. it still looks realistic, but without looking dull.
Bear in mind that, as has been mentioned, calibration is also about the room in which you're watching. The fact that you've said dynamic looks closer to the cinema than cinema makes me think that you watch TV with the light on?
By target market I meant people looking for the most accurate picture, something which a dynamic setting will never provide. Just to be sure, by accurate, I mean reproducing a picture as close as possible to broadcast standards as the display can manage. Unfortunately, I cannot believe you're after an accurate picture.
I don't know much about the science of projection, but I'm pretty darn sure that sitting right up against the screen and at the back of the auditorium won't make the difference between the cinema and dynamic modes we see on modern televisions. I know that when I go to the cinema I generally see by-and-large accurate pictures (not always, but that's for another thread). No matter where I sit.I do go to the cinema reasonably often and to different venues. Unlike other people I sit near the front such that the picture completely fills my field of view. At this distance I would expect the picture would look brighter than to those sitting in the back row. I cannot believe that the so called Cinema or Movie settings have any relevance to a real cinema experience even from the back row.
Oh, plenty of televisions don't have enough adjustment options, but loads of people will still prefer the movie mode as it will be the closest to accuracy.Many cheaaper LCD's dont even let you vary the Cinema type setting. I fully appreciate the importance of greyscale etc.
I know, but it's a good example as quite a lot of Pioneer owners have had calibration performed. Here is an example of the sort of thing I was referring to that people have said.Unfortunately few are able to afford a Pioneer and yes you could have it ISF calibrated . But I suggest this is not for most on here.
Fair enough, but I find it difficult to watch movies in the light for many reasons.Here I think you have hit the nub. Nobody I know watches the TV in the dark! Yes at night I do have the light on! and in the daytime I do not close the curtains!
It's quite good actually. If you were watching in the dark, it's good to have a source of light behind the display; it makes it easier on your eyes and, by extension, increases the perceived contrast of the picture. If I went for a Philips set then I probably would set it to a 6500K bias light rather than the coloured mode, but set really subtly it can work really well (i.e. you don't notice it until it's off, and then you switch it straight back on).BTW I never did get the point of Philips Ambilight.
My advice is don't buy one of these sets otherwise you will constantly be unimpressed with friends and familys sets, setup horrifically and displaying blocky pictures with inaccurate colours,m where people all look like they have been swimming in fake tan and radioactive waste.
And please take your tv sets out of dynamic/standard and put it in cinema/movie, then tweak them a bit. If you want horrible looking glary colours then buy a cheap tv from argos or lidl and don't waste your cash on a tv than can look a lot better.