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Is ULED better than OLED? - Hisense launch 65XT910 4K TV

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by Steve Withers, Nov 12, 2015.


    1. Steve Withers

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      Almost sounds too good to be true ...... oh and

      Curved .... why did it have to be curved
       
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      I was smiling until I saw the image and the word curved. :(

      Hisense have already made a 50" 4K set for under £500. Already quite favourable in the reviews on the web. They are out guns blazing to steal a share of an already crowded market in the UK and Europe.

      Let the quality of their products, customer services/support and reviews speak..
       
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      Impressive - the TV and the company.
      Are we seeing the next Samsung?
       
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      Very interesting, if they can get a flat 65" 4k UHD with hdr and blacks close to OLED at £2k it could be a killer tv and one that I would certainly consider.
       
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      Ive had a 58" hisense KEC730 tv for the last 4 weeks.

      I previously had 1 x Panasonic cx700 and 3 x sony x8509c and all were obviously returned due to various issues.

      I took a chance on a Hisense tv as it was well specced and was only £849, £250 cheaper than what i paid for the Pana or Sony, which is now in my 4K bluray player fund.

      It doesnt have a smart remote or voice search but it has pretty much everything else, the Opera app store is lacking but youtube and netflix work fine in 4k and an update for amazon instant video is due and thats all i need really.

      It has HEVC and VP9 decoding, freesat HD and freeview HD, can record as a PVR, 4 HDMI (2 are 2.0) 1 x USB 3.0 and 2 x USB 2.0.

      I would say picture quality is on par with both the Pana and Sony, SD upscaling of anything other than animated is poor but i dont watch any.

      The most important thing for me is no light bleed or blooming or leak of any kind amd the local dimming is excellent, much better blacks than the Sony or Panasonic.

      There is minor DSE but its not really visible on Football, just on panning white screens.
       
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      My thoughts exactly (and many others I suspect!)
       
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      I would'nt touch Samsung because of there post support and CS.
       
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      In stock at JL at £2328, lot of tv for the money there's no doubt about that, Samsung equivalent is what about £3600 at the mo
       
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      Is this another nail in the coffin for OLED, i can see ULED and OLED competing against each other like plasma and lcd, the public will vote with their wallets and if ULED is cheaper then i believe it will be the successor.
       
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      And of course the two acronyms won't get mixed up.
       
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      I wonder if this is actually any good, tempted to order one just to compare it to my JS9000 lol :)
       
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      Is this hdmi 2.0a?
       
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      Does it have to be 2.0a to do HDR.
       
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      I'll check with Hisense, I forgot to ask on Tuesday.
       
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      It's possible that HDMI 2.0 and be upgraded to pass HDR metadata via a firmware update, so not necessarily an issue.
       
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      If asking that Steve is it possible to find out are there any FLAT 65" or larger on the way soon please:)
       
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      It's good to see someone else enter the arena. I took a trip to Currys today and I'd say at least 75% of the tv's for sale were LG and Samsung - shame really.
       
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      V interesting - i await a full review
       
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      Reading the review now and it says it has 10bit colour and 4 hdmi two of which are 2.0a:smashin: hope this tv will be available soon as flat as it would deffo be under consideration.
       
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      That review reports a 10 bit panel.
       
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      The slab XT910 poster 10 bits per color, where too much current UHD slabs are 8 bits.

      Not sure what this means then?
       
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      I think 'slab' should be 'panel'.
      Maybe we should wait for the AVF review.
       
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      Maybe we should but when there is info out there that is exciting it's difficult t o wait.:D
       
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      Have I got this right? HDMI 2.0 is required for 4k which won't work on HDMI1.4? And HDMI 2.0a is required for HDR which won't work on HDMI 1.4 or 2.0?

      EDIT: OK to answer my own question for anyone who may be wondering, 1.4b carries 4k up to 24hz whereas 2.0 carries 4k up to 60hz & Rec.2020 colour space. 2.0a is required for HDR.

      Very informative article here: Top 10 features your next TV must have

      Think that's right but please correct me if I missed anything.
       
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      You need HDMI 2.0 for 4K at 50/60Hz and HDMI 2.0a to paste HDR metadata. It's possible that HDMI 2.0 inputs can be updated to pass the metadata but the manufacturers are still working on that.
       
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      I'll check that the panel is 10-bit, that it supports HDR 10 and that two of the HDMI inputs are HDMI 2.0a. If it ticks all those boxes, that's a lot of TV for £2,000!
       
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      So who is going to get one for Christmas but loan it first for review?
       

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