Looking at buying our 13year old A laptop for his birthday, doesn't want a desk top. Anyway he wants it for infrequent gaming but mostly mucking around on the net, you know, IM, Facebook etc. Anyway I have seen two, this one. HP Pavilion g6-1241sa 15.6" Laptop - Red at cheap prices | PC World And this one HP Pavilion g6-1075sa 15.6" Refurbished Laptop - Sonoma Red at cheap prices | PC World Not worried about buying refurbished, as you get the same rights. So is it worth spending the extra £80 for the increased ram and HD space? Thanks for the help. atacam.