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Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by Acecross, Jan 18, 2004.

  1. Acecross

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    Hello there guys. I have just purchased my first projector. Just wanted your opinions on if it is going to give a resonably usable picture connected to my HTPC.
    I know it is not great but it is hopefully better than my 32" TV for displaying pictures via VGA from the PC.

    The spec is as follows:



    Liesegang dv 260 Projector Specifications
    (show metric units)
    MSRP (USD) : **
    Brightness (Lumens) : 500 ANSI
    Contrast: ANSI:
    **
    Full On/Off: 200:1
    Weight: 23.1 lbs.
    Size (inches) (HxWxD) : 6.7 x 12.6 x 18.1
    Throw Dist (feet) : 7.2 - 22.9
    Image Size (inches) : 40.0 - 198.0
    Lens: Focus:
    Power
    Zoom: Power, 1.63:1
    Optional Lenses: No
    Digital Zoom: No
    Keystone Correction: Fixed
    Lens Shift: No
    Compatibility: HDTV:
    No
    EDTV/480p: No
    SDTV/480i: No
    Component Video: No
    Video: Yes
    Digital Input: No
    Personal Computers: Yes
    Networking: Wired:
    No
    Wireless: No
    Warranty: **
    Lamp: Type:
    250W Metal Halide
    Life: 2000 hours
    Quantity: 1
    Display: Type:
    1.3" PolySi LCD (3)
    Native: 640x480 Pixels
    Maximum: 800x600 Pixels
    Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (VGA)
    Performance:
    H-Sync Range: 15.0 - 38.0kHz
    V-Sync Range: 56 - 84Hz
    Pixel Clock: **
    Speakers: 3.0W Mono
    Max Power: 350W
    Voltage: 100V - 240V
    FCC Class: A
    Audible Noise: 45.0 dB
    Special: **
    Status: Out of Production
    First Ship: **
    Last Ship: **


    Any comments would be much apreciated (constructive ones more so!) :)

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. cyberheater

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    Stay away. A contrast ratio of 200:1 will look crap and native of 640x480!!! Save you pennys and get a second hand AE100. You should be able to pick one up for between 350 + 450 pounds.
     
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    Well, I would say that for video stuff that you are going to have certain difficulties with that projector for a few reasons.

    The first is the lack of contrast ratio. 200:1 is extremely low, meaning that dark scenes will tend to appear sort of misty and grey and lacking detail. Overall, the image won't be all that bright, so you may want to consider a relatively small screen.

    The second issue, is that lack of resolution.... 640x480 is very low, particularly if you want to see any widescreen material, in which case you will lose even more vertical resolution.

    I'm trying to be constructive, in that, to make the best out of it you will probably not want to project too big an image, and you might want to consider a grey screen to help compensate a little for the lack of contrast. However, in all honesty, there are projectors on the market second-hand for probably around 300 quid that would produce a drastically better picture, something like an AE100 perhaps.
     
  4. Acecross

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    Not what i wanted to hear really! I really am a novice when it comes to projectors. So you guys are saying that even in a darkened room, with a relatively small projected image, this will not give a better quality picture than a 28" cheap widesreen TV?

    I am not looking for perfection and as this was very cheap i expected it to have faults, but is it not going to be any use at all?

    If i run my PC at a resolution of 800x600 will the image not be okay for watching video?

    I take it then that if i use powerstrip to generate a custom widscreen resolution this PJ will not be up to the job.

    Thanks for the quick replis guys.

    Tim
     
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    If you've already bought it, give it a go and see what you think.
    If you think it looks alright, it doesnt really matter what anybody thinks of the spec.:smashin:
     
  6. Acecross

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    Cool thanks, that is what i will have to do! It must be better than a DIY using a Fresnel lense and a portable TV! That was the other option at this price! It really was cheap so not too big of a deal. I would be more gutted if I just shelled out a grand and got that answer!

    Thanks again.
     
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    Yeh give it a go but make sure you've got your amp turned up as 45db is a pretty loud fan too.

    Hope you get an acceptable result.
     
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    Didn't realise that you already bought it.

    Here is my advice.

    1/ Set you pc to native res 640x480. If you go 800x600 the projector will only downscale it to it's native resolution. Your better of with a 1:1 pixel mapping scheme so stick to 640x480.

    2/ Head to Ikea and get a Tupplur 2 meter wide blackout blind. It's only 20 quid and the screen material is very good. Nothing can touch if for the money (unless you build your own blackout blind screen).

    3/ Consider buying a Hoya FLD filter from Jessops at around a tenner. I will improve your contrast.

    4/ If you can afford it. Build a hush box from 1 inch thick mdf for you projector. At 45db it will be loud.

    Hope this helps.
     
  9. Acecross

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    Yep unfortunately i took the plunge without really thinking about it properly. It was kind of "Hell thats cheap! Must buy!" Without realizing there was a reason why it was cheap.
    Hopefuly can get a usable picture.

    I did wonder why there were not more people using projectors if you could get a usable one for £150!

    Appreciate the advice

    I will give it a go and see how i get on, probably end up getting somthing better. Maybe give this one to my brother if it is good enough for playing Gmaes on the PS2/XBOX.

    Cheers
     

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