KableMan
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St_ve said:Reading posts on the Toshiba it seems some Toshiba sets do not have these faults so i don't think the issue is done & dusted yet.
If all Toshiba sets suffered from a common fault one of the Toshiba owners should post a report in the DLP problems Sticky advising prospective owners what to look out for when they demo the set.
If they are faults with individual sets Toshiba should fix them.
A lot of threads pop up of the "which is better variety " & there allways seems to be at least one Tosh owner saying how great the set is without pointing out any faults.
Hi Steve - I think, having seen the Tosh in comet yesterday (for the second time) and reading TYN's post again and how closely it described what i've seen, that the Toshiba sets are all the same (and they all work the same) and its actually the owners, and what they see, that are different.
There are clearly too issues, i.e. painted/oily faces/skin and motion blurring/fizzing, but only some owners notice them all the time, some notice them some of the time and some don't notice them at all. I wish I were the latter but i'm the former. This is why some owners only rave about the TV, and there's a lot to be positive about, and some go on about the "blur" all the time. This time I fall into the latter group - mainly because I read all there was to read and decided that the price and overall positive feedback would outweigh any minor blurring issues and I bought but I was wrong and as a result have been very very disappointed and its gonna cost me £300 'cos there's no way Toshiba are gonna fix it 'cos its a "feature" not a fault.
So I want to talk about it to warn others so they know exactly what they are getting themselves into. Ultimately as many have said you must demo before you buy and if the blurr/painted effects don't bother you then buy the Toshiba and you will be rewarded with a superb TV but if you're a picky telly addict/movie buff like me then you are bound to notice it at some point (if not instantly like I did) and you will be disappointed.
-TYN- said:Yes Elephant man i think on HD material which is nearly upon us this blurr problem is no where near as noticable and therefore very soon your purchase will seem a lot lot rosier.
Unfortunately seeing any such artifacts on HD was one artifact too many for me on a TV that is designed for hi-definition. Again other owners may be more forgiving or may not have noticed anything and if so more power too them but for me this was my acid test and the Tosh let me down. I hope by posting such feedback I can warn others to make a purchase with their own eyes open.
Dale - check out my posts about my demo of the samsung alongside the Toshiba and it did not suffer from any of these problems. So I dispute your statement that 90% of DLP's suffer with this problem. But I do agree with you that if you are disatisfied then you should return the set if you can as i'm doing.
Cheers
KableMan
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