I have the Optoma RD50 if i was looking for a set now i'd demo my set & the samsungs both HD3 & HD2+ models i haven't seen them in action but have heard positive reports on themdestix said:razor , you seem to be up to speed on these forums , have you heard much about the samsung sp46l3hx , it costs about £1800 , not many threads about it , but most posts seem positive , you know of any drawbacks? , HD compatibility etc?
I think i am going to cancel my order for the tosh , was only ordered 2 days ago anyway , then might pop into currys and pick up the samsung (dont see it much cheaper on the web)
oh , and what set have you got steve?
Glad your a bit happier with the pic now.Razor said:Fleagledog
When you talk about blurred motion in films it can a desired effect that the director has chosen. ie a style of shooting. I dont think these members (ie. soni, kableman,tyn etc..) are counting these scenes as a problem.
What they are saying is that scences which have no blur etc on a normal crt have blur etc on their Tosh.
Steve - The skin tone thing can be a problem with a digital tv feed, but to be honest i can't recall ever seeing this problem on DVD.St_ve said:I am a bit surprised when i take a DVD along for a demo i allways take one i know well so why did all the Tosh owners get blur histeria ?
When i saw the Tosh with Matrix reloaded it was the skin tones that was the problem
do you have any problem with them?
Do you need to use the HDMI input to get a good picture how is it with a DVD player on a scart lead or component.
Thanks Supermackem - There's no way i would get rid of this TV now. I agree it is a shame about the oil painting effect but i am sure this is a feed quality problem, as i can't recall seing this on any DVD's.supermackem said:Thats one thing good about dlp the colours are so lush and deep, im glad you are a tad happy now soni. I just wish the oil painting and the dithering wasnt so bad as then i would love this tv. The colours are lush i find reds and blues look asowme when there solid blocks of colour on the tv. I am gutted with the way tosh have handled the situation saying its a feature of the tv etc instead of saying it maybe a fault and we will try to look into it moreand say offer us a free lamp or something. Anyone know where you can buy these lamps i know i have thousands of hours left, but the thought of needing one in a few years time and not being able to find a place to buy from is worring me.
LV426 - Yes the TV is a 100hz CRT, but the scan mode was set to natural, as i never used the set in pure 100hz mode as it seemed to give a slight shimmering effect on lines on the TV menu, although i could never see it on the tv picture, i allways thought the natural selection would give the best picture!LV426 said:I suspect what we may have, here, is a case of a much bigger screen showing up an artefact that was always there, but which we simply didn't notice on our tiny CRT set.
soni - is your CRT set a 100hz job, or a regular 50hz one? If it's 100hz, it may have a bearing; CRT 100hz processing is similar in many ways to the scaling needed to drive a DLP (or Plasma or LCD for that matter) and might, just might, cause similar effects.
Hi Tyn - I did say the following 'I would HONESTLY say that the blurring on the CRT was probably about 10% max clearer than the DLP, as the DLP did have a slight fizz to it - but considering its a 28" compared with a 46", i think the DLP does a bloody good job.'-TYN- said:Sorry Soni but i am not convinced all my dvd etc look great on any other display in the house, of course they are going to show framerate blurr "which is a normal blurr accurance and looks natural" but like Kableman said this is phsycadellic blurr gone bad on the Tosh. Plus you cannot pause it to view it, so this means its not the source but an artifact added by the Tosh.
Although i see LV426 point with the 100 hz as this can cause a sort of smearing but this is still nowhere near as bad as the coloured fizzing type blurr of the Tosh.
Also on my pc and console games they must have remade the textures just for when you put it on the Tosh (these programmers are clever ) as hey presto they change into a mess when turning etc.
Or maybe all sources just have a Tosh recognition system ?
I saw a toshiba CRT set saturday the picture quality was great untill we switched over to the Aston Villa game on sky the picture was terrible easily the worst i've ever seen on a CRT. When i was talking about it with my son he said you have to switch back to 50 hrz for the bad sources .LV426:soni - is your CRT set a 100hz job, or a regular 50hz one? If it's 100hz, it may have a bearing; CRT 100hz processing is similar in many ways to the scaling needed to drive a DLP (or Plasma or LCD for that matter) and might, just might, cause similar effects.
St_ve said:Oil painting is a bit misleading in that oil paintings can do skin tones & there are great oil painting portraits.