Is the DS getting left behind?

Tetlee

Distinguished Member
Is it only me that's completely dissapointed the the DS release schedule so far. I've always been a fan of Nintendo and was eager to get a DS on release, but where are the standout games?

So far only Zoo Keeper & Meteo's have managed to grip me for more than a few days(Nintendogs was fun for a couple of days) with most DS games I've bought being resold within a week :rolleyes:

Considering the DS was released ahead of the PSP it is kind of surprising the lack of any must have DS titles even on pre-release. The PSP has loads of great games already with loads more set for release before crimble. Meantime my DS is sitting collecting dust with no signs of a revival :(

Personally I'm only looking forward to MarioKart & maybe the new Mario game(can't remember title). God knows what happened to Vandal Hearts DS, seems to have been abandoned :mad:

So what are your opinions & what DS games are you getting excited about?

Maybe someone can remind me of a forgotten reason why not to sell my DS.
 

Miyazaki

Novice Member
I would have sold my ds by now if my missus wasn't so engrossed in nintendogs.

Zoo Tycoon DS is coming out for her birthday, and I will be getting her Animal Crossing DS for xmas. Funny to think that she bought the DS for MY birthday! :rolleyes: :D
 

Tetlee

Distinguished Member
Games Guru said:
Funny to think that she bought the DS for MY birthday! :rolleyes: :D
Maybe you should ask for a refund ;) Actually the ladies seem to be more happy with the DS games than us blokes, my girlfriend moans if I mention selling mine as she'd miss playing two player Meteo's
 

thefantasticmrh

Novice Member
WiFi will change the way the DS is played on. If the Nintendo online service works well I can see it being very appealing to buy those games that feature online play.I can't wait to play Mario Kart DS online.

Compatability with wireless routers and whether or not Nintendo negotiates access to hotspots are other things which could decide whether or not the DS has a long future ahead of it, or whether it'll be filling preowned shelves early in the new year.
 
It is always worth owning both the DS and PSP. Like the GC vs XBOX/PS2 there will always be games on the nintendo format which any gamer simply must buy or have exposure to e.g the Mario series, the Zelda series, Advance Wars series, Metroid Prime Series and Castlevania series etc.

The DS was always going to lose out in general to the PSP but with its touch screen if offers new dimensions to gaming for some games something which the PSP will never be able to do. Kirby on the DS for example of a game that is different and very fun as a result.

The DS can be had for approx 50 pounds second hand so is very cheap, considering the PSP 180 pounds price tag or 230pounds if you got hit by customs like me. As a result there is no excuse not to own a DS as 50 quid is nothing in gaming.
 

Tetlee

Distinguished Member
I totally agree with your point about owning all consoles, I had Xbox, Cube, PS2, PSP, DS, and an Ngage(still has some great games) although I've now sold my Xbox ready for 360 funds.

I too thought owning the PSP and the DS was the only way to go, just feel dissapointed about the DS games so far. Was hoping the DS would build on some of the classic GBA titles, especially some tactics games like Final Fantasy Tactics & Tactics Ogre, they could work a dream with touchscreen.

Also be interested to see how the Wi-Fi multiplayer works out, the idea of MaioKart online is the best prospect for the DS for me right now, shame they dropped the online battle mode though.

Anyway, I'll be trying MarioKart before thinking about selling my DS so should see some of you online.
 

Throttle

Active Member
Yea the Ds could do with some more big games really but i have a psp aswell and i dunno but theres nothing i see myself as brilliant on the psp either best game is maybe everybodys golf but thats all that i bother playing myself.
Though Gta and pro evo should be really good for psp :clap: im also going to get Castlevania on Ds aswell as i liked the previous games.
 

CrispyXUK

Well-known Member
Nintendo of Europe have been awful getting the games out over here, they're bloody useless which Is why I import most of my games

Not sure about you lot but I have quite a few games now;

Mario 64 DS
Zookeeper
Castlevania DS
Kirby's Magica Paintbrush
Nintendogs
Yoshi's Touch & Go
Advance Wars DS

I'm a very happy gamer :)
 

drskhaled

Novice Member
What crispy said is exactly why ds will fail in europe. In japan ds outsell psp and thats reflected by the quality of software releases. here we get treated like rich idiots ready to be fleeced. (its the same with all but the xbox really).
 

CrispyXUK

Well-known Member
drskhaled said:
What crispy said is exactly why ds will fail in europe.
Maybe in the UK it wont fair as well but it should do fine in the other Euro countries, there is a reat line-up of games coming out over the next few months;

Advance Wars (out now)
Castlevania (out now)
Nintendogs
Mario Kart
Ultimate Spiderman
Kirbys
Sonic Rush
Metroid hunters
Zoo Tycoon
Tony Harks Sk8tland

So don't panic :)
 

Steven

Senior Moderator
drskhaled said:
What crispy said is exactly why ds will fail in europe. In japan ds outsell psp and thats reflected by the quality of software releases. here we get treated like rich idiots ready to be fleeced. (its the same with all but the xbox really).
True:

Example: Wario Ware Twisted (GBA) is released this month in UK. One year after Oct '04 Jap release, and 5 months after USA. It predates Yoshi Gravitation whatever its called on DS which came out in UK before it!

Nintendo UK need to sort itself out
 

Miyazaki

Novice Member
thefantasticmrh said:
WiFi will change the way the DS is played on. If the Nintendo online service works well I can see it being very appealing to buy those games that feature online play.I can't wait to play Mario Kart DS online.

Compatability with wireless routers and whether or not Nintendo negotiates access to hotspots are other things which could decide whether or not the DS has a long future ahead of it, or whether it'll be filling preowned shelves early in the new year.
Do you really imagine the ds working well online? Nintendo have zero pedigree when it comes to online gaming. They couldn't even get their arse in gear with the gamecube. The broadband modem for the NGC was released in stealth mode for heavens sake! :suicide:
 

CrispyXUK

Well-known Member
Games Guru said:
Do you really imagine the ds working well online? Nintendo have zero pedigree when it comes to online gaming. They couldn't even get their arse in gear with the gamecube. The broadband modem for the NGC was released in stealth mode for heavens sake! :suicide:
They have been testing and creating there online presence for years, even the SNES had satelleview whilst it never took because of techolical reasons this is were it started, I'm sure they know exactly what they're doing but I just wish they'd tell us more about as the service starts in 4 weeks
 

Steven

Senior Moderator
Great, now Wario Ware Twisted has been delayed. Given the US got it in May, even a small company like Nintendo could translate it into x european languages?

It can't be technical problems, so whats the excuse? They've had enough time to get stock in

Whats this gotta do with the thread? Its now plain to see the scant UK DS release scedule won't change, since Nintendo UK can't even bring out a year old game on time
 

breakersrevenge

Active Member
We have had PSP's and a DS's, our little ebay business imported them both, I would say the interest in the DS is way behind. My son (aged 7) has not touched his DS for ages.

Was going to import the Gameboy Micro but decided not to, too gimicky and way too small, my son played on his for a day and went staight back to the PSP!!
 

CrispyXUK

Well-known Member
You guys know that another Secret of Mana game is bound for the DS don't you? :D
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
Can't say that there's anything (apart from multiplayer mariokart - although mainly battle mode which they axed!) that would tempt me to buy a DS. The two screens have proved to just be a gimmick and are generally just used for map/item screens or other views. The touch screen again has just been a gimmick IMO and hasn't really added much to the gaming experience.

Personally I love my PSP and have it stuffed with emulators and games like Doom and Quake. I'm currently playing through Zelda - A link to the past again and loving that. Then when I want some current gen gaming quality I can just stick in the likes of Lumines, Wipeout, Ridge Racer, Burnout Legends and shortly PES5 and GTA! Not only that but i've got a few episodes of the Simpsons on there and loads of music. You just can't beat it IMO!
 

melliott1963

Novice Member
LFC_SL said:
Great, now Wario Ware Twisted has been delayed. Given the US got it in May, even a small company like Nintendo could translate it into x european languages?
Just import it from videogamesplus.

Most of my DS games are imported US games. Not only do I get them well before the UK, but, at an average price of around £20 per game, they're a lot cheaper as well.

Another side benefit, for me, is that with US games, you don't have to go through the bother of selecting what language you want to play the game in every time you start it!
 

melliott1963

Novice Member
CAS FAN said:
The two screens have proved to just be a gimmick and are generally just used for map/item screens or other views. The touch screen again has just been a gimmick IMO and hasn't really added much to the gaming experience.
Well, you obviously haven't played games like WarioWare Touched, ZooKeeper, Feel The Magic, and Nintendogs. Games like these add a totally new dimension to handheld gaming and wouldn't be playable without the touch screen.

Then there's Trauma Center, just being released in the States, where you use the touch screen and stylus to perform operations on people. Again, how would you be able to do this easily on a PSP or any other console????
 

Steven

Senior Moderator
So the DS has been out about a year (inc Jap), and only 4 or so games actually make 2 screens work and feel innovative?

If this is a sign of things to come, the only decent use of the Revolution controller may be Nintendo games
 

melliott1963

Novice Member
NO! Of course there's more than 4 games that make 2 screens work and feel innovative. I only mentioned the four games, being games that I've got, but there are plenty of others out there which, quite frankly I can't be bothered to mention, although I would also add Tiger Woods (which I've also got) which uses the touch screen for the swing, and makes it stand out from the usual '3 presses of a button' method.
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
melliott1963 said:
Well, you obviously haven't played games like WarioWare Touched, ZooKeeper, Feel The Magic, and Nintendogs. Games like these add a totally new dimension to handheld gaming and wouldn't be playable without the touch screen.

Then there's Trauma Center, just being released in the States, where you use the touch screen and stylus to perform operations on people. Again, how would you be able to do this easily on a PSP or any other console????
Why would I want to play games like WarioWare Touched and Zoo Keeper?? They look like something that you would get on a V-Tech console :D . Maybe if I was 5 the idea of swapping animals around in the Zoo may entertain me but at 31 I prefer my games with a bit more depth to be honest. I also own two real dogs which I run about with on a real field so why on Gods earth would I wish to play a game where I pretend to own some dogs :rolleyes: . I want to be able to do things in games that I can't do in real life - i.e. fly space craft, race expensive hi performance cars around, take England to world cup glory etc. I don't want to sit in my armchair stroking digital dogs with my stylus :D :rotfl: .

There are some decent games on the DS - Advance Wars & Mario Kart (when it comes out) but most of the games simply do not appeal at all.
 

Tetlee

Distinguished Member
CAS FAN said:
There are some decent games on the DS - Advance Wars & Mario Kart (when it comes out) but most of the games simply do not appeal at all.
Agree with CAS. I'll be keeping my DS to put MarioKart through its online paces before deciding the fate of my DS. TBH the DS is already my biggest concern when thinking about the Revolution. Was hoping to see alot more active quality releases this far after release, getting a bit like the Cube, classics are their but too few & far between. Even the GBA seems to be getting better games released(yes I know we can play them on the DS but it wouldn't appeal to me holding something like the DS when there's only need for one screen). I'd have liked to have at least seen Enemy Unknown on the DS, waste of a great series to only release on GBA :(

The PSP had sooo much more going for it now, it didn't have to be this way if Nintendo got their fingers out. It's becoming much more a one horse race than I was expecting & I for one am pretty gutted about that fact.
 

melliott1963

Novice Member
CAS FAN said:
Why would I want to play games like WarioWare Touched and Zoo Keeper??
Have you actually played these? There's more to games than just graphics.

I must admit that I wasn't really interest in Zoo Keeper when it first came out, but, having heard some favourable reviews and then seeing it for £15, I thought I'd give it a go.

It's not the sort of game you'd spend hours playing, but then again at 42 with a wife, 2 young kids and a full-time job, I don't have hours to play!!!! However, it's great for the odd 30 minute slot. My wife and I usually play the time trial mode and, I hate to admit it, but she's a lot better than me!

Yes, the graphics are c**p, and the music is even worse (fortunately you can turn it off), but for shear playability and the 'one more go to beat my high score' factor, it's superb.

OK, so it hasn't got much 'depth', but then again, if you want games with depth, you buy a PC or console, not a handheld.

I do have to agreed, however, that the UK seems to have been forgotten as far as the release schedule goes, and that's bad news for your 'Joe average' who just buys his games in the high street. But with the DS being region free, and, as I've already said, with importing being cheaper and easy to do on the web, it's not been a problem for me.
 

Steven

Senior Moderator
Just me or is the shelf space already dwindling for DS, while the much publicised PSP is getting much more shelf space?

Looks like home console situ is transferring to portables. The problem is, after about 25 PSP games since Sept 1st, the DS isn't getting many that diverts the eye away from the PSP
 

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