a lot of sets out of the box are adjusted high, with dynamic contrast set on, colours vivid etc, check sets on display in shops, these settings give a wow factor, and compared to the old worn out sets people have at home look so much better, it is only after living with the set for a short while you realise the picture is not right, A budget set that has for all intense and purposes been adjusted to look its best can and indeed will look better than a far superior set that has been poorly set up.
As far as is it worth it, well you know how much money you have in the bank,
perhaps it is a bit of a rhetorical question, is it worth spending £100 or so on having a set calibrated or spending the extra money on a set to start with.
There are also many posts on here where some say it is worth every penny, and some would argue it is a waste of time, you yourself have adjusted your set and made considerable ground, and probably unlikely to get an improvement worth the money, There are also those people whom attempt adjustment and come on here looking for default settings to try to restore the picture to something watchable.
This could have quite easily been your orignal reply, why it wasn't i don't know, only you do. The fact that it wasn't however is what prompted my less than warm response. I find it infuriating that people presume they can say and act as they want on the internet because it is annonymous, especially when it is people who should know better.
As far as not generalising, unless you start a specific owners thread, you are unlikely to get specific answers, and as you list a few pieces of equipment,
Trying to find someone who has the exact equipment narrows your chances of specific answers dramatically so I would suggest you are going to have to accept generalisation, even if you did find someone with that equipment they may have a different opinion as to what is worth doing or not.
By generalising I mean the tried and tested "if you pay more for a component or a link in the chain then the overall quality of the system is bound to improve" response that is so common these days. This response actually has no bearing what so ever on my question of "Is it worth the cost to calibrate a budget system?"
Its akin to you asking, "is it worth me having the engine in my budget car tuned for better performance?" and me replying with, "well we all know that if you replace the filters on an engine the performance will improve".
It's neither helpful to you nor does it give you anything to work with moving forward. A more helpful response would be,
"I have a budget car and after paying x to have the engine tuned I think the performance increase is fantastic."
"I have tuned several budget cars and since they are limited by their engine it really isn't worth you having it tuned since the performance gain will be minimal, especially with the engine you have which is also used in XYZ cars - see these posts for users with this engine and their experiences."
I have a budget set, I simply wanted to know does anybody with a budget system have any experience with calibration? Are there any ISF guys here who have any experience with Budget systems (mine in particular if possible or perhaps others in a similar price range, or that use similar components?) and can comment on the improvement vs cost?
Finally you asked a question, I tried to help you to think along the right lines, I dont expect thanks for the answer as I just like to help people out.
But I dont expect arrogance either, Unless you change that attitude you will find this a lonely and unhelpful forum
Thats very true, I did ask a question and the response was neither relevant nor helpful, you assumed I knew the asnwers to the questions I posed and instead of attempting to answer or point me in the right direction you went on to discuss the relative merits of replacing a link in the chain as opposed to working with what I already have which was the question.
You missunderstood what I was asking; you answered as you felt appropriate and I corrected you. You have now given me the response which should have been your original post and for that you have my thanks, as for the rest of your comments, they are irrelevant. If you don't take the time to read my question and instead of being constructive simply shoot me down then you should expect me to respond in kind.
I wont pretend to be grateful for unhelpful comments and I will correct others where necessary. Likewise I am more than willing to accept responsibility for my actions and appologise where I am at fault. This was one such case, your intial reply missed the point entirely and you simply wrote what you wanted to without actually taking the time to think about a your response, you say that you tried to help but that isn't the case at all. Your second post is your attempt at trying to help and like I said I am grateful, it's constructive and you make a valid point. Your first post however is nothing more than you beating down a newbie who you feel should know better, if this had been the case then fine, but you missed the mark entirely.
This thread is a prime example of how forums can be lonely and unhelpful, you feel you are in a position to make the comments you made freely and without any thought about how they affect others. Why should a new poster know the things you have said are common knowledge? Why should a new poster have to put up with responses like yours that are wholly unhelpful? They shouldn't and by simply pointing this out I derail my own thread and ruin any chance of getting a constructive response.
That aside I hope that you will think in future before posting and work with new members to bring them to your level of knowledge instead of looking down on them and posting as if they should know better which helps no-one.
It isn't arrogance to defend oneself, however your first post was the very definition of arrogance, you presumed you were in a position to answer without really taking the time to look at the question, you made assumptions about my level of knowledge and you response was delivered in a wholly overbearing manner.
I will now ask a mod to close this thread since it is unlikely that it will get back on topic.