He has has ways thats for sure but has helped a few folks with their Kuro's, like many here.The last panasonic plasmas can't really be compared to a reset/volt adjusted krp500. They are in a different league. And I'll vouch for Patrik/PgICE. I was also once convinced oled was the best, but then i came over his videos, and i just had to test what he was talking about. So i found an used krp500, did the volt adjustments and reset and guess what, thats my go to tv today and that is all because i saw his youtube video. I had nothing to do with him else than i was curious and love tech. Now i do not say OLED tv are so bad that you should not buy one and i am not saying that a krp500 is perfect. I am just saying it gives a better picture than tvs that you can buy today in stores (imho).
No, sorry he is a clown, very bad attitude, and he basically learned how to reset off several of us, me included, I have reset a KRP 500A myself and supplied him with the hex code which he has acknowledged.Can you elaborate?
You know what, I would love to see how the OLED'S were set up to come to that conclusion.I guess everyone is allowed to their own opinion For me when I did a side by side comparison of (back then it was the C7 vs krp500A) I was blown away by how poor the OLED looked in movies compared to the krp500A. I have later done side by side comparison of Q9fn,Vt60,C7,C8,5090lx,500a,500m and for me the best TV is the 500m. I have actually never had any one over choosing the oled over the krp picture wise.
Tbh I think there is a place atm for the Qled, plasma and the oled, and they all have their strength and weakness. However, when everything boils down to getting the best cinema experience when watching a movie I highly prefer the kuro. It just looks more natural.
Thinking about it, I actually believe those people that don't calibrate or know much about picture are the once that are most happy when watching movies, cause even though I love my tv's, I see flaws in them that could have been better. Imagine a couple of more years of kuro development or a mix of the 3 techs, oh well one can only dream
My FZ802 has good uniformity near white, but it's slightly warmer on the left side and it sticks out in content after you've seen it: https://www.avforums.com/attachments/untitled-png.1207594/Plus, the engineers at Panasonic have also managed to dial out the inherent cyan blue whites of WRGB OLED and given this OLED a redder, richer colour of white which makes a big difference to image accuracy. While it wasn’t as big a standout as our hands-on with the GZ2000 recently, the correct colour of white and lack of the cyan tint (that is present even on correctly calibrated OLEDs) is not present here with viewing material. This adds to the accuracy of skin tones and colours as the greyscale is excellent.
Not sure what you mean by banding. Plasmas don't have banding like on OLEDs. I know what you mean about the dithering though (looks like dancing pixels) when viewed up close, but they were never visible to me from a normal viewing distance, whereas the tinting/banding on OLEDs is visible.I do not play games on my TV so maybe that is why I do not see much of a difference in motion, I don't own a games console.
There are other things about the Plasma too, with whites get too close to the plasma and you can see the screen looks like there is something moving about, the banding is far worse than on the OLED too, I watch lots of 4K HDR/Dolby Vision stuff and the Plasma is not a patch on it not even close, don't get me wrong I loved the KRP but it's just got bettered now that is all.
I would love for the oled to be better so i could get hdr in my cinema room. Cause the q9fn is not good enough in a black painted room. I do not prefer the oleds to the kuro in any way ex of hdr and 100% blackness compared to 99.5%, oh and the dithering plasma noise in silent scenes. I do not care at all about power consumption. If you like the oled more, then I am happy for you and everyone else who are. At the end of the day that’s all that matters?You know what, I would love to see how the OLED'S were set up to come to that conclusion.
I also do not know what some people regard as a good picture but have found that nearly every 2019 Mainstream Manufacturer's OLED has been better than the KRP, you see an OLED has better colours, better blacks, better brightness uses less power for the same size.
The KRP has slightly and I mean slightly better motion handling as far as I can see (I owned a KRP) in fact the difference to me is hardly noticeable and causes me no issues with football.
I understand what some say about calibration but since my Pioneer was calibrated on 2 separate inputs by two different professional Calibrators, incidentally one of whom is very well respected and has calibrated my OLED too, the picture on the OLED is just better all ends up bar the slight motion difference, so you see people see things differently, I think when showing Films the OLED is just slightly better than my KRP was, there is no HDR or 4K on the plasma so it doesn't stand up against a calibrated OLED with most films as far as I can see.
Let's not mention Phosphor Trails either.
I am not sure if what we are talking about here is the same, but the kuros have the cleanest uniformity image I have seen on a tv and it's the same on all of them. I have seen so many oleds during the years now, and most if not all have to some degree something that looks like a cat has been on the production line pissing on the screen before they was shipped out lol. This bothers me more than the motion as it makes an uneven picture.Banding/false contouring, My Plasma definitely had banding it drove me nuts, it was way worse than on the OLED, in fact I have very rarely seen it on the OLED but did on the Pioneer, must have been poor bandwidth content off TV and such.
I agree that the ABL can be aggressive if not tweaked and the panasonic plasma was horrible. After i adjusted the ABL limit on the kuro i could get over double the nits that my vt60 could on a 100% fullscreen window. So for me the ABL is not really a problem aganst the oleds in sdr. And yea the reflection is kinda crap in comparision xD Thats the best thing about the Q9fn, it handles a living room without needing to use blackouts all the time in the windows, thank god. I live most of my live in a bat cave so it is nice to be able to eat upstairs without needing to turn that room into a batcave aswell But down in my batcave the plasma lives happily It is a black painted room from floor to roof and small things like key holes in door is taped over. There is basically no way to get light into that room.The difference in motion is more than slight IMO. It's night and day in games where you can't enable interpolation. The motion on my FZ802 is not too bad with IFC set to Min, but it's still no Kuro.
There are too many compromises with OLEDs for some Kuro owners. You have banding near black, tinting near white, worse motion and worse SDR colours depending on the brand/model (WRGB vs true RGB).
From Phil's GZ1500 review:
My FZ802 has good uniformity near white, but it's slightly warmer on the left side and it sticks out in content after you've seen it: https://www.avforums.com/attachments/untitled-png.1207594/
What I love most about OLEDs is that they don't dim the screen in SDR content (no ABL). The ABL on plasmas is pretty aggressive and it makes bright scenes look a bit dirty next to an OLED or LCD. They also have way better reflection handling (you're basically buying a mirror when buy a plasma ).
So there are pros and cons, but as someone who doesn't watch any HDR content, I wish I had waited for a 65" plasma to come up. The size difference (50" vs 65") was the only reason that stopped me from returning my FZ802 and sticking with the LX5090 for a few more years.
Who are you trying to kid?The krp has the cleanest uniformity on any screen. And no oled can match it on motion not even close.
when set up right on sdr, I truly believe the latest oled still can’t match that natural picture in sdr. And the krp don’t know what banding is but oleds all have banding to some extent.
Look I am not bashing you, and I am not making out that they are bad at all, in fact they smash most sets out of the park even now, I thought that mine was a fantastic set, but I do object the way some of you are lauding the set and trying to make out it doesn't have this problem and that problem, they Do have Banding I know full well I have seen it many a time, they aren't very bright, they can look dirty if you get too close, they dither a lot, the colours and screen is cleaner and cleaner on a Panasonic there is more, the blacks are not surpassed on anything else except an OLED, so stop saying they are fantastic, they were I'll admit that, but tech has moved on and now even after all this time are still the 2nd best, which for the age of the things is amazing, lets not fool yourselves they are not top any more, with 4K with HDR and a good feed on an OLED blow the Pioneer out of the water, even Blue Ray looks better than my KRP did.Let’s face it just read the forums and people are still clinging on to their krp, they are not as bad as you’ve made them out to be.
I was going to write a quite long post back here but i see we are not going to agree on this matter so i will just have to say that we have to agree to disagree on this matter. Oh and if you happen to know Vincent, than ask him if he would do a comparison video of the KRP500M vs an OLED I will even pay for a krp500m if we can find one close by and you guys can pick it up. But only if he does a proper tweak of it and not just a calibration That way we can settle this once and for all, since you don't believe Patrik's videosWho are you trying to kid?
I have had 2 of the KRP'S and both showed banding and false contouring, what exactly are you looking at, behave yourself!!!
I wouldn't mind and may not have know if I hadn't, but You know different.
The cleanest you have ever seen? The Panasonic's were cleaner, with better whites, I know that too because I still have one of them in my bedroom, and it was sorry is way way cleaner than the Pioneer, I have watched them side by side in the past.
Have you checked the AVSHD709 black clipping pattern after you reset your KRP500M? My KRP500M had crushed blacks after a reset, and there are a few members over on AVSFORUM who had the same issue.I was going to write a quite long post back here but i see we are not going to agree on this matter so i will just have to say that we have to agree to disagree on this matter. Oh and if you happen to know Vincent, than ask him if he would do a comparison video of the KRP500M vs an OLED I will even pay for a krp500m if we can find one close by and you guys can pick it up. But only if he does a proper tweak of it and not just a calibration That way we can settle this once and for all, since you don't believe Patrik's videos