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Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by family man, May 21, 2004.

  1. family man

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    I recently sold off my Panny AE300 in order to buy a 50" plasma as I was getting ****** off with having to have total black out conditions and setting up time etc. The other thing is that I wanted my kids to be able to have a large screen for their normal TV and film watching during the day.

    I must say I absolutely love the plasma and it really has allowed us to reclaim our living room!!

    Right the question is this - is it greedy to have a plasma and a projector?

    Do any other members have both and how do you do it i.e. seperate rooms etc?? Do you use both much?

    The reason I ask is that as I said I love the plasma but am missing the REALLY big screen for things like LOTR and other big spectacular type films.

    Cheers!!
     
  2. Liam @ Prog AV

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    Nah it's not greedy at all (says the sympathetic salesman of projectors and plasmas!!!!!!!).

    Seriously though i've seen two common ways of having both, a lounge room (or in my mothers case the kitchen!) with a plasma for day to day viewing and if you can't be bothered to power up the PJ. Then a dedicated home cinema room with another complete setup where you can really blackout the place and arrange perfect seating etc. Plus it means the kids can still watch cartoons on the plasma while your in the dedicated room watching a proper movie.

    T'other way is for the projection screen to come down over the plasma! This is cheapest since you don't have to go out and buy another whole system (speakers, DVD, amp etc) and unless there is complicated scaling in there somewhere, is relatively simple to implement using some DA's and usually routing all the video sources through the AV amp.
     
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    I've got a an old series 4 Panny which has served me very well over the years,but something was missing it was too small.
    So I bit the bullet and purchased a Panny AE500 PJ, with a screen that comes down over the plasma.Now running both via a HCPC.
    The plasma I use for normal TV via Sky and then drop down the screen for the major viewing,ROTK looked great and would IMO have looked dissapointing on a 42" plasma.
    Rob
     
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    It's not greedy, but i do get the eyes to the sky from my wife everytime i bring a new HC toy home, I have a 42" plasmas sitting on quite a low unit and a 7ft screen just above, works well!!
     
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    I have to go against the flow here and say that I think that it is greedy. I browse this forum and I just shake my head in wonder at the amount of money that people here spend on such lavish (and totally unnessary) toys. I then think about all the people in the world who are going hungry and, to be quite honest, my heart just breaks and I'm just a little bit sickened.

    Let me give you an example. On quite a few occasions my kids have gone hungry because we couldn't afford to go shopping as I had "once again gone out and blown our money on some new gadget" (quote from my wife there). She complains to me and I just remind her that the kids are still young enough so that they will not remember being hungry when the get older and also, that at their ages it is very unlikely that minor malnutrition will have any real long-term effects. To this argument she always just shrugs her sholders and says "I suppose you're right" and we settle down to our take-away chineese or pizza, on front of the big screen. Sometimes one of the kids might shout down stairs "Ma, I'm hungry" and she'll just smile at me and say "turn up the sound system a bit love, will ya"


    Conor
     
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    I have a set up in my lounge as described in previous responses (i.e. wall mounted 50” plasma, ceiling mounted pj and a drop down pj screen), and apart from the disapproving comments from the missus, it all works fine! :thumbsup:

    To be honest it is a bit of a bind to black out the windows (especially with the light summer nights) but the impact of the large screen for movies is definitely worth it.

    A question for those in a similar position – how do you split the signals from all sources to go to either the plasma or pj (I have a PS2, NTL cable, DVD and HDD/DVD recorder)? I use my amp to switch inputs, but ideally want to switch outputs (particularly component). By the way, I had previously bought a Scancom AVT-5842 4x2 Component Video & Stereo Audio Routing Switcher – but this would not support a watchable signal along my cable run to the pj. :rolleyes:

    cheers
     
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    LOL!!!

    Nice to see you have your head screwed on correctly and with the final quote from your wife it sounds like you've snagged a good 'un!!!!

    I am also interested to learn a bit more about the screen in front of the plasma thing. So would you have to mount this from the ceiling? Just thinking about how that would work/look as the plasma sticks out a good 6 inches the screen would be swinging in the wind so to speak!!
     
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    If you have an amp that converts all signals to component (or all signals are already component) then all you need is a few VGA to Phono cables and a VGA Distribution Amp to send one signal to plasma and t'other to PJ. The better the DA, the more it will amplify your signal on longer runs.

    Screen coming down from the ceiling is not really an issue unless you like to keep all your windows open and blast air through the room!!! There are some well priced tab-tension screens out there if you want something a little more stable.

    If you've got a huge room you can go incredibly extravagant (and also prohibitively expensive) and panel out your entire main wall about a foot or more out from the wall. Sinking in the equipment and the front three speakers is easy enough (and you can add cool lighting etc). Now in order from wall to panel you have a plasma surrounded in black-out material, your ceiling mounted 8' wide projection screen and another electric screen with a replica painting on it. Finally your panelled wall with an 8' x 4.5' hole in it. When nothing's on you get a giant slightly recessed painting and no-one would even know they're in a cinema room, when it's TV time the painting raises (like the Vutec ArtScreen for plasmas) to show the plasma, and movie time lowers the projection screen for projection!!!

    Of course you could also feed Conor's kids until they're in college with about the same budget :laugh:
     
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    it's not greedy, iv'e only spent £250,000 on my stuff
     
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    Oh. You have take a nought off that for our spend... we must be cheapskates :rolleyes:
     
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    Well as a member who already has a projector & electric screen & acquired a new plasma display yesterday, I must say that yes, it is greedy.

    However, I work hard (on occasion :D ) & am entitled to a new toy every now & then. Does this affect the household budget (food, utilities etc.)? Hell yes but that can be said of socialising (drinking :beer: ) & many other hobbies (all drinking orientated for me :beer: ).

    Am I happy with what I've got? Yes (for now :D ). Do I care what others may think of my "extravagance"? Nope.

    So my advice is go out & get yourself an all singing, all dancing projector with electric screen & on your way home, pick up a plasma display just to finish off the package (& your bank balance).

    :smoke:
     
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    Not sure the wife would let me get away with that!!

    How on earth do you spend £250K on AV kit?? Surely a new DB7 and a house would be better?
     
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    I have two full setups in 2 seperate rooms - kids room with plasma, main lounge with projector and screen. Means I get to watch all my movies and sport whilst the kids can watch Engie Benjie and the missus can watch her soaps :)
     
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    Neil can afford £250,000 because us lot keep buying from him.... :D

    Personaly its all wrong and you wouldnt catch me doing it.

    Pfff plasma and a PJ, no no, not me.

    Neil any chance of a job, or letting me run a store for you down this way, It sounds like i could do with a slice off your bread m8.... :D

    Sides the wife always looks like you made a bad choice but secretly they luv it, i can`t get the women off the flippin PJ.

    We live in an excessive country, so why fight it, eh? :thumbsup:
     
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    I think the house alone will cost that these days
     
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    So it seems that it is greedy but what the hell!!

    So anyone else have a setup with both?
     
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    Its not greedy its sensible, we have a pj, dvd, xbox etc in one room and in another room we have a 23inch lcd, dvd, hifi, amp etc.

    When my fiance wants to watch her soaps and other crap, if i am in the house, i will go and play my xbox or watch dvd in the other room.

    When we want to watch a movie we always use the pj, even if we had a plasma we would watch the pj.
     
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    Sorry before this gets out of hand, it was meant as a joke, I own the company so all the stock across the company is mine........ my wife would go balistic if i brought all the stock home with me.

    And in reference to them moaning and secretly loving it, could'nt agree more, I'm having problems with my plasma at the moment, the one she moaned at when i brought it home, when she complained about the fault, i said go and watch it in the other room "but it's not as good".............women hey!!!
     
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    Na not greedy. Projectors are not suitable for everyday use in my opinion. You need a Tv as well. I have had a plasma on the wall in the lounge for well over a year now and love it. Its there for watching the news etc and for the Mrs mainly. Projector is for the footy, films and gaming.

    I waited on getting a projector until I had a dedicated viewing room. Didnt want to spoil a nice lounge in a period property with a projector setup. I have seen people who have done it well but its not my thing.

    You could say spending £25,000 getting the loft done just so I can have a viewing room to watch films and play games is greedy but then again it added £50,000 to the houses value so I just see it as an investment :thumbsup:
     
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    I use the plasma for everyday tv viewing and the projector at night for viewing DVD's.

    Both have cost me less than the average family car, so no I don't think it's greedy.
     
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    Family Man, do it, you won't regret it & it's not excessive. I use the plasma for day to day viewing & the projector for movies in the evening.

    It's relatively easy to install an electric screen in front of the plasma. It only needs to be a couple of inches clear from the front of the plasma & really makes the difference with big movies.

    I just don't think I could stomach the thought of better half watching neighbours on an eight foot screen, so plasma is a must for my sanity !!!

    As for switching, currently utilising multiple outputs of equipment to route, i.e. Laserdisc has s-video to PJ & scart to quintro switcher to RGB scart of plasma, etc. But I really need to invest in an amp with transcoding so as I can take everything via component to a DA. Although am currently contemplating getting a Yammy Z9 which takes the hard work out of it by transcoding and offering double component outs in the same box.

    (If you're interested, there are a couple of pics of my set-up during install in the screens section in a thread titled "ceiling fixing" where I've posted some replies there. Find them here......
    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131955 )


    cheers,

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    I guess some material just isn't worthy of being projected huh :smashin:

    Get a projector for watching the worthy stuff :thumbsup:
     
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    Well it should keep the missus happy with me going through the whole deliberation thing yet again!!

    Cant seem to buy anything without at least 2-3 months faffing and masses of heartache!!
     
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    You have probably realised by now its not the place to be put off spending money on AV gear ! Seriously though you could have a plasma screen for many years so £2000 - £3000 over that period of time is not as bad as it seems.

    Having got my projector setup now I dont know how I lived without one (Particularly for the xbox). I definately couldnt live without the plasma either will never own a crt set again.

    So there you are, you need both !
     

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