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Is Integrated Intel® Extreme2 Graphics any good ?

Discussion in 'Desktop & Laptop Computers Forum' started by mjw123, Mar 18, 2005.

  1. mjw123

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    Guys,

    I've just purchased a Dell Dim 3000 System for my father with 1Gb Memory and 3GHZ (800FSB) CPU to upgrade his ageing Tiny System.

    My only concern is that it only comes with Integrated Intel® Extreme2 on board Graphics. How does this compare to a budget 128Mb video card ie something around the £40 mark ?

    He will be using the system for CAD work so I was wondering if adding say a cheap 128Mb Radeon would make much of a difference over what is bundled?

    He isn't going to be playing Half life 2 so he doesn't need state of the art graphics but something that would improve the machines handling of his CAD apps would be usefull (cost permitting)

    Many TIA
    Mike.
     
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    If CAD is memory intensive, then using a discreet graphics card helps because on-board graphics share system memory. Something in the ATI 9200se/9250 range would be fine (for AGP). If your system is PCI-Express then an X300 is adequate. Look at 5200/6200's if you are looking at Nvidia.
     
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    I hate to poor cold water on this but doesn't the 3000 ONLY come with on-board graphics?

    Have you opened the case? I think you'll find there is no AGP graphics slot :thumbsdow

    You'll be hard pushed to find a pure PCI card these days. Don't get confused by PCI Express cards!

    Your only hope, if I'm correct, is to allocate as much memory to the on-board graphics and see how iit goes.

    Your only upgrade option is to buy a new case, motherboard and graphics card and transfer the rest of the parts

    Dave
     
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    He's right you know...
    Expansion is listed as 3 PCI slots. No express or AGP slots.
     
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    OK Guys thanks for your help - what about a PCI graphics card insted of an AGP then ?

    Anyone able to recommend one ?
     
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    Good luck with your search!


    Dave
     
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    Only hope i would think is Ebay, even if you found one the performance compared to even a low end AGP card would be pretty poor
     
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    Can you cancel the order or is it a done deal?
     
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    Thanks guys - It looks like the PCI option might not be the end of the world !! :smashin:

    He won't need state of the art 3D graphics so a 128Mb PCI could be fine.

    Cheers,
    Mike.
     
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    I find it amazing that Dell can sell this type of PC with no REAL way of improving graphics peformance.
     
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    Well guys I ran the 3DMark2001SE test from mad onion and got a respectable 3291 from the on board graphics.

    Whilst not staggering I think this is more than adequate for my Dad's requirements.

    Bottom line to me seems to be if you ain't bothered about gaming the Dimension 3000 is a superb piece of kit for the price. :clap:
     
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    I'm sorry but thats a poor score! Should be getting double that, before saying its respectable!
     
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    Well it's a ll relative i guess but tested the PC's at work that are fairly new and they are coming out at 1792.

    To only pay £340 dleivered for a system with 16X DVD +/- RW, 1Gb Ram, 3Ghz 800FSB CPU, 160Gb drive and accpetable Graphics seems more than reasonable to me. It's like sh!t off the proverbial stick :smashin:
     

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