I have a basic Panasonic DVD-S52 . I use it also for playing audio CD. Is there any reason to expect better sound quality for audio CD if I purchased an entry level CD player from Yamaha or Denon or whatever
Thanks for both and that thread was very helpful , although connection was all via digital cable, while I'll be using analog audio connection, but I assume from the whole thread idea that regardless, a CD player is better.
2 sweeping statements in one post!Expensive DVD players can be made to sound as good as middling CD players, but I think it is misleading to suggest that a cheap DVDP will sound as good as a cheap CDP.
But yes, I think stereo amps generally sound much better than comparable multi-channel amps.
Nick
Expensive DVD players can be made to sound as good as middling CD players, but I think it is misleading to suggest that a cheap DVDP will sound as good as a cheap CDP.
But yes, I think stereo amps generally sound much better than comparable multi-channel amps.
Nick
Expensive DVD players can be made to sound as good as middling CD players, but I think it is misleading to suggest that a cheap DVDP will sound as good as a cheap CDP.
Nick
Like on the other thread - and past experiences - a CD player is in general better than DVD players at replaying CD's. A DVD player has no place in a serious hi-fi system in my opinion. That philosophy also extends to AV systems for good music replay. There maybe a few exceptions to the rule in a cost no object set up. But personally I haven't been convinced that DVD players can cut the mustard with CD's.
If i had £100 or £20,000 to spend on a CD playing front end, there is no way on earth I would choose a DVD player over an equivalent CD player.. For me atleast the debate is over !
One of the most amazing jitter specs I have ever seen in a CDP was a HFW report on a Quad CD-P1 CD player Kop, in fact it measured 1000 picosecs of jitter, now I am no tecnhophile but I do realise that even in mk I form the CD-P1 had a lot of fans before they released your version (in part to sort out that jitter spectrum I would add), which just goes to show that even an "audiophile" CDP with 1000 spec of jitter can be regarded as "decent" but not a 100 spec DVD player, well a 1000 spec CDP has no place in a "serious" hi-fi system in my opinion. .
FWIW I went from a TAG DAC 20 to my current Toshiba, I overlapped them by a few weeks to see what I would do ie keep the TAG and use the Toshiba as a CD transport (40 spec of jitter I felt it was a decent enough transport), in the end the CD replay was so good I sold the TAG on. No mean feat as it was a very decent digital front end to my ears.
FWIW Ive heard a few digital AV 5.1 pre-amps, processed into offboard PAs that sound very decent to me in stereo, so I think we maybe differ in what we hear Kop, hence the diasgreement with DVD players not being able to do CD in a stereo system, that has always been my goal actually using a DVD player (initially with offboard DACs - X24K - DAC 20) via a stereo setup - never been into 5.1, now latterly using two very decent DVD players at stereo (again I used a CA DACMagic 2i Mk II with the 900V to realise it is a decent player in its own right), I guess I have just had a different experience in audio than most audiophiles I have ran into on hifi boards.
Best regards chaps, I feel we will differ on this no matter what is said
CJROSS,
I admire your passion about trying to convince fellow audiophiles that DVD Players can play CDs as good or better than CD Players.
I am starting to think that maybe this is moot.
Heck, if most audiophiles would not think that a dedicated CDP is better I would never been able to pay $960 for my second hand Meridian 596.
You and I know what we have experienced with. Let the rest of the world follow conventional wisdom...
Cheers,
Doron
So far nobody has stated the obvious:
- Whether it's worth investing in a new source component is hugely dependent on what the rest of your system is. What are you intending to connect it to?
- Have you ever considered going to a hifi store and listening to various dvd and cd players (preferably with your own amp and speakers, but we all realise that this is not always possible) to get an idea of whether you personally can hear the difference?
This also was similar to my question as I'm quite new to CDs and DVDs having been used to vinyl. My DVD player is a philips 5960 which I originally bought with the intention to also use it to play my CDs (I haven't got many CDs or DVDs yet but am starting to build up, mostly classical music). I would prefer to use just one box for both but reading audiophile comments about how much better dedicated CD players are compared to DVDs playing CDs I'm not so sure now as I've never really heard what a decent CD player might do compared to my present set up. Also, I don't really have the funds to buy an expensive one so if I went down this route I'de be looking at either a good secondhand CD player or new budget end under £100 job. The only dedicated 'CD player' I have is a cheapo Alba personal one which I've rigged up to play through my amp and speakers via the headphone output. I have yet to compare whether this sounds better than my DVD playing the same thing but I'll probably get round to it. I've had my NAD amp for quite some years now and didn't really want to splash out on anything else as it does the job and also has phono for my record player. Meanwhile, would 'up sampling' my DVD player make any difference playing CDs or is it just bells and whistles? This is really all new to me so I'd welcome any comments.