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Is a curry a curry?

Ayub

Distinguished Member
Wondered what people expect when they go down the local Asian takeaway and when they eat "out" do you expect better.

Do you look at a shops layout to define the overall experience or do you simply want to eat in a nice " upcoming place "
 

Exemplar

Banned
There is a curry house in Newark called Castle Cuisine (as its next to the castle...). Looks awful from the front. Inside none of the chairs, tables or cutlery match. They have no license (there is a Victoria Wine next door though). Their saving grace? The staff are amazing and the food is brilliant. That's why they are booked solid every night and have been for about 5 years now.
 

Ayub

Distinguished Member
I ask this because in bradford everybody raves about 3 pads, all three in my opinion when serving the same taste very bland and poor in my opinion.

I went to pad A, food arrived 30 min later, was warm not hot and the Chapati was like wafer thing in fact I could of used it to scrape ice off a windshield.

Pad 2 food arrived 30 mins later very hot, not hot in dish but very hot plate! dish tasted ok, nothing special. Naan was the ok gimmick but felt that it was wafer thing in too many places.

Pad 3 food arrived in 20 mins, curry was both hot and well made. Food wax ok staff were ok again nothing better than the local....

So what makes them better than the rest? Possibly the over priced food? Like your thoughts please.
 

mjn

Distinguished Member
I used to work round the corner from one of the best kebab shops ever! Used to go in there most days, for a kofte kebab on naan, fantastic!

And i lived round the corner from another kebab shop, which had awesome chicken.

I miss Manchester some times. :(
 

SBT

Banned
You shouldn't judge a place by front of house.It's the kitchen you should be looking at,some of these places are filthy.

It's usualy the nice looking places that are worse ;)
 

[email protected]

Well-known Member
I love curry but for me it's about the taste not the decor of the place

I like to be able to sit down with a few beers, have a nice starter, main, side dishes, breads etc when I am eating out and tend to eat a lot more than if I were having a takeaway

Having said that, where I live now, try as I have, I have failed to find even an average restaurant or take away.

I grew up and spent most of my working life in Yorkshire (South and West) and Scotland (Edinburgh) so like the style of curry you get "up north" in places like West Yorkshire, Manchester, Glasgow etc.

I hate what I refer to as "Southern Currys" where the sauce hasn't been given a change to soak into the meat so what you have is just plain chicken with sauce on top. To me that isn't a curry. I am guessing however if I had grown up only knowing that then a trip up north with thick sauces and heavily marinaded meat would not appeal

So when I get the chance to go out for a meal when back up north I will aim for a curry house (hence my other post yesterday) and when I find a good curry house, I will return time after time.

So if I am staying over in Manchester I will head towards the curry mile. Leeds will see me at the Naawab and so on.

The exception to all of this is when I am in Swindon (which I am quite a bit) where I have found a really nice Indian. I would never have a traditional curry there because it's still a "southern curry" but the other dishes they do are really nice.
 
I'm from bradford and I try my hardest to keep away from the main '3' big places I think akbar has the worst service imaginable minutes between starts and main waiters waiting for you to put your forks down then rushing your plates away and bringing the bill

I prefer the smaller places that don't look very nice on the outside but still do amazing food... Like the veggie place that was on Gordon Ramsey program very nice food

3 singhs looks more of a chain but I think the food is of a great quality there

Omars in the center take away the gimmick of the giant nann and the curry is if a great standard

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DPinBucks

Distinguished Member
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I hate what I refer to as "Southern Currys" where the sauce hasn't been given a change to soak into the meat so what you have is just plain chicken with sauce on top....
That's an interesting illustration of the degree of integration of some parts of our culture.

Instead of discussing the subtleties and merits of the Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Hindustani, Bangalorean, Madrasan, Sri Lankan, etc regional dishes of the Sub-Continent, we talk about 'northern' and 'southern' curries ('curry' just means sauce). Not Sub-Continental curries, either. British curries.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking it. It's just interesting, that's all.
 

logiciel

Moderator
Answer: No, it's a sickly looking and worse smelling stew.
 

[email protected]

Well-known Member
Not Sub-Continental curries, either. British curries.

Isn't that kind of the point?

In the UK, we get UK curries

I don't for one second expect to walk into a restaurant in down town Bangalore and see a chicken tikka masla on the menu

So what we end up with is something tailored to the British taste.

I do suspect in recent years the demand for more "authentic" sub continental cuisine has risen but I can't help feeling that most "curry houses" are still stuck in the mindset of lads going for a Ruby after many many pints of lager on a Saturday night.
 

nabby

Distinguished Member
Isn't that kind of the point?

In the UK, we get UK curries

I don't for one second expect to walk into a restaurant in down town Bangalore and see a chicken tikka masla on the menu

So what we end up with is something tailored to the British taste.

I do suspect in recent years the demand for more "authentic" sub continental cuisine has risen but I can't help feeling that most "curry houses" are still stuck in the mindset of lads going for a Ruby after many many pints of lager on a Saturday night.

Spot on. And this is why I avoid your standard "curry house".
 

[email protected]

Well-known Member
Spot on. And this is why I avoid your standard "curry house".

But you make it sound as if a British curry is a bad thing

There is such a thing as a good British Curry although I suspect if you actually come from or have roots in some of the countries we have talked about you may well disagree
 

Rawschach

Distinguished Member
i think the food at akbars is good but it is too busy with too many people crammed in which spoils things a bit

mumtaz i have never understood why it is so popular, their food is average imo

there used to be a far better restaurant on Great Horton Road just below mumtaz, Chowdreys it was called and the food was the best i have ever had but it was never very busy and it shut down. I could never understand why people would wait ages at Mumtaz for a table when literally 5 mins down the same road there was a nicer place with better food.

This seems a pattern - every time we find somewhere really good it closes or gets new owners (Red Chill 3 on Leeds Road is another example)

I agree that the food is the most important thing - if you can recommend anywhere Ayub ??

Paprika was decent when we went there, 3 Singhs was nice enough, Syhiba and Kiplings are probably the best ones we have been to in the Halifax / Sowerby Bridge area.

Being a Bulls fan i have to recommend Omar Khans!!
 

[email protected]

Well-known Member
This seems a pattern - every time we find somewhere really good it closes or gets new owners (Red Chill 3 on Leeds Road is another example)

When we lived in Huddersfield many years ago, we went through a phase where every time we thought we had found a decent takeaway, it was shut down by environmental health :eek:
 

nabby

Distinguished Member
But you make it sound as if a British curry is a bad thing

There is such a thing as a good British Curry although I suspect if you actually come from or have roots in some of the countries we have talked about you may well disagree

If that's the way it comes across then that's not my intention.

I love a good CTM as the next man but too many places offer a choice of:
Chicken
Lamb
Prawn
Fish
King Prawn
Mixed Vegetables
in your choice of sauce from 8 or 10 on the menu. That's cooking by numbers.

The best curry house experience I've had is food from a place in Dalkeith near Edinburgh where my parents-in-law live. We often get a takeaway (sorry, should be called a carryout :D) from there and the food is very good.

But I much prefer my more authentic South Indian dosa place or my Gujurati vegetarian food place or my Northwest Indian/Pakistani place that is good for meat and naan and traditional Punjabi food. And there's no shortage of those types of places near to where I live in South London.
 

kendun

Active Member
I wouldn't have a curry at a takeaway normally as I tend to have that at home most days :)

If I wanted what I consider is traditional south Indian food, the places I frequent are Saravana Bhavan or chennai dosa in London and more recently chennai dosa in Altrincham ...

If I do go to an Asian takeaway, it's normally after a night out when I am stumbling home and I do get a lamb bhuna/ jalfrezi or whatever ask them to make it spicy :)
 

Piscauk

Well-known Member
I ask this because in bradford everybody raves about 3 pads, all three in my opinion when serving the same taste very bland and poor in my opinion.

I lived in Bradford both 30 years ago as a baby and 13 years ago as a student, which places were you thinking of?

In Bradford, I really liked Omar's down by the Alhambra (not sure it still exists). It didnt seem anything special, but was always super tasty. Conversely, I didnt really get on with the Kashmir on Morley St; whilst I was told it was very authentic, which I had to take at face value, the food just didnt pop out at me and was little tastier than the curry I do myself. It wasnt the presentation either, i.e. in plain bowls, shabby tables just the actual food itself.

In all honesty, even going to places with the lads from work who were local fellas, I cant say Bradford ever really delivered any curry better than other towns or cities in the UK.


My favourite curry was from a place called the Spice of Bengal, Ambleside. Appalling service, freezing cold restaurant. But with the finest lamb jalfrezi I had ever experienced, mainly as it was simply unlike any other I had ever had. And tasted so much fresher than anything I could even make myself; which is ultimately what it comes down to, making it worthwhile going to the restaurant for an experience you cannot get elswhere.
 

Wahreo

Distinguished Member
Last time I went to my local Restaurant they had water dripping from the ceiling as the basin waste in the flat above had sprung a leak. It didnt bother my Wife and I in the slightest as we have built up a rapport with the owners and know they are good people but above all the food is superb yet the cost is reasonable.

If I go somewhere where the food is really bad then I will tell them when they come to ask during the meal.

If the food is ok but not quite right then at the end of the meal I will mention it politely.

I see no reason to just eat the meal and pay for your food but then bitch about the quality the whole journey home.
 
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Wahreo said:
Last time I went to my local Restaurant they had water dripping from the ceiling as the basin waste in the flat above had sprung a leak. It didnt bother my Wife and I in the slightest as we have built up a rapport with the owners and know they are good people but above all the food is superb yet the cost is reasonable.

If I go somewhere where the food is really bad then I will tell them when they come to ask during the meal.

If the food is ok but not quite right then at the end of the meal I will mention it politely.

I see no reason to just eat the meal and pay for your food but then bitch about the quality the whole journey home.

Exactly I let them know if it isn't right, how else can they correct it. However if it still isn't at the respond attempt I'm gone. I also hate overly friendly place, I'm not there to chat to them, I'm there with my my guests so leave me alone and serve please.

Curry wise (in the broadest sense of the category), although I haven't been in a while the times I've been to La Porte des Indes in London have been really really good. I also quite like veeraswamy, great foot, and lovely discreet service. But for very different experience Tayyabs in whitechapel does it for me based upon their food. I can't stand the slumming feel of bring your own booze and go into a local off license to get your own beer/wine but hey the food is lovely albeit service is rushed.
 

Lancia34

Distinguished Member
Went to Quilon last night for our 6 month anniversary. Michelin star Indian restaurant.
All I can say is that I don't think I could have a normal curry again!

A little expensive (comparably) but the food was out of this world and pretty much most if the people eating there Indian which is always a great sign.
 

Solar

Well-known Member
But you make it sound as if a British curry is a bad thing
British currys from a British curry house usually consists of half a gallon of oil and a cup of sugar though, so yeah they are probably a bad thing.
Most of them use the same suppliers too, as with the cheapo Chinese takeaways.
 

SBT

Banned
British currys from a British curry house usually consists of half a gallon of oil and a cup of sugar though, so yeah they are probably a bad thing.
Most of them use the same suppliers too, as with the cheapo Chinese takeaways.


That's what put me off.
The last curry i tried had a layer of oil about a cm deep floating on the top.
 

bumpymark2

Active Member
Theres a resteraunt near were i live in hull called tandoor mahal,it is the best curry house i have been in everything from the deco staff and above all the food is excellent and if you eat in or take out the quality is allways 100% it is allways full on a night and form monday to thursday they do a 4 course meal for a tenner! highly recommended especialy the chicken biryani and veggy curry :thumbsup:
 

Coffin

Distinguished Member
Just enjoying a home made curry. Hardly any oil used. Yummy!
 

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