Is 7.1 worth it?

ibruceuk

Standard Member
Hi,

I'm re-doing my living room and am wondering if 7.1 is going to be worth it.

The room is quite small (about 4M x 4M) with a 42" LCD mounted on one wall with a sofa opposite against the other wall. If I was to go with 7.1 I was thinking the left right and centre to be in obvious places. As far as the rears go.

Sides to be mounted at door height on the left and right side walls pointing towards the sofa.

Rears set into wall behind the sofa at the left and right of the sofa. Obviously this means the sides will be further away from the listener than the rears. The rears will be quite close to the listening position.

Will I get the benefit with this setup, or would 5.1 be pretty much the same?

Also, any recommendations of a decoder? I have a reasonable 7.1 amp and speakers, so just need a decoder that would have multiple inputs (Optical, HDMI) and support DTS-HD and Dolby-HD.

Cheers,

Ian
 

Robsk1

Active Member
IMO I wouldn't go for 7.1 in that size room and use the money saved for a better amp/speakers.
 

ibruceuk

Standard Member
At the moment I've not got much kit (or money for that matter)

I've got an old Panasonic 5.1 DVD combined system (SA-HT75) that sounds very good. But I'm refurbing the room that it was in mainly due to the purchase of an LG 42LG7000 tv.

In the front room I've got a cheap Creative 7.1 speaker system that is currently just upmixing Stereo to all the speakers and the sound from it is crystal clear and very loud. I was thinking of putting these speakers in the main lounge and then looking at some kind of decoder and a PS3 or other Blu-Ray player to experience full HD audio. I'm upgrading to Sky HD soon too, so would like to be able to take advantage of the 5.1 so I need something with Optical input unlike my current Panasonic.

I would love to be able to spend the money on some decent speakers and amp, but am pretty limited.

The idea being that once the cheapo speakers are in place I might in time be able to upgrade bit by bit with the cables already chased into walls etc.

Hope that paints a reasonable picture.
 

Markie Boy

Active Member
IMO I wouldn't go for 7.1 in that size room and use the money saved for a better amp/speakers.

I disagree, my dedicated room is the same size as the OP, and since going 7 channel 8 months ago the system has taken on a new lease of life. If however adding the additional 2 rears now impacts on what you can afford to buy, I would suggest holding off, but running the cable and getting ready, then buy a pair of matching speakers down the track. There sno point doing 7.1 unless youre gonna do it right.

But to answer the original question, yes, in a room that size, its worth doing. Heres a link to my system showing the added in-ceilings.
 

ibruceuk

Standard Member
Cheers Markie,

So which are your sides and which are your backs? I was thinking at about door height in mine as my ceilings are nearly 3M high!

I've got 7 speakers (plus sub) and to my ears they are very good quality, but I've no decoding, so I need to source a decoder for them. Once the wiring/speakers are in place I can change bit by bit as and when I can afford it.

Ian

p.s. Where in Perth are you? I spent a few months there in 2004, wish I was back there now!
 

Markie Boy

Active Member
Cheers Markie,

So which are your sides and which are your backs? I was thinking at about door height in mine as my ceilings are nearly 3M high!

I've got 7 speakers (plus sub) and to my ears they are very good quality, but I've no decoding, so I need to source a decoder for them. Once the wiring/speakers are in place I can change bit by bit as and when I can afford it.

Ian

p.s. Where in Perth are you? I spent a few months there in 2004, wish I was back there now!
My in-ceiling rears are the standard surround, while the ones behind on the wall are the surround backs.
Works a treat!
I live in the Northern Suburbs (just passed Quinns Rocks) - lovely part of the world indeed!
 

NatD

Member
I am in a similar position.

I've got some Onkyo 7.1 Speakers (from a mate who specialises in AV) minus the sub.

My Denon 1909 gets delivered today, and my PZ80 on Friday.

With the shape of my room, there is no way I can positions the surround L / R like this....



My surround speakers (not the rear ones) would probably be positioned towards the front of the room due to not being able to get the wires under the floor!!!!!

Would it be even worth doing it like that?
 

spooney

Novice Member
What I would bear in mind is that there are hardly any 7.1 disks on the market. The main reason is there are no 7.1 movie theaters and therefor 7.1 audio tracks are not produced. In cinemas only 2 channels are processed through the multiple rears.

Unless your AVR is able to process a 7.1 sound out of the existing channels (sometimes called Matrix Sound e.g. on Denon) or you find a rare 7.1 disk your additional speakers will remain silent.
 

Big_Si_Owen

Active Member
What I would bear in mind is that there are hardly any 7.1 disks on the market. The main reason is there are no 7.1 movie theaters and therefor 7.1 audio tracks are not produced. In cinemas only 2 channels are processed through the multiple rears.

Unless your AVR is able to process a 7.1 sound out of the existing channels (sometimes called Matrix Sound e.g. on Denon) or you find a rare 7.1 disk your additional speakers will remain silent.
This is what prompted me to take my back surrounds down... Just weren't enough discs where they were being used. Will probably get some in the future if it's used more... Not just yet for me though.
 

Mother Theresa

Novice Member
Are the rear surrounds the "extra" ones or is it the middle ones. The reason I ask is I have expensive-ish rear speakers and cheaper (diamond 9.0s) middle ones so don't want to waste the money that I spent on the rear surrounds if they aren't going to do anything most of the time. [On Sony DTR2400ES].
 
What I would bear in mind is that there are hardly any 7.1 disks on the market. The main reason is there are no 7.1 movie theaters and therefor 7.1 audio tracks are not produced. In cinemas only 2 channels are processed through the multiple rears.

Unless your AVR is able to process a 7.1 sound out of the existing channels (sometimes called Matrix Sound e.g. on Denon) or you find a rare 7.1 disk your additional speakers will remain silent.

That was my conclusion too, so I biamped the fronts with the spare channels, to take away any temptation.:devil:
 

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