paulyoung666
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And mostly comprising your own civilians.
not sure they would be overly bothered about that to be honest , just my thoughts you understand .....
And mostly comprising your own civilians.
And the Americans?Lot quicker than the Russians
And 8 years quicker than the US did in 1988. Although the US did reportedly attempt to contact that air craft multiple times.Lot quicker than the Russians
Start by saying it was all Trump's fault for whatever?I wonder what our reaction would be if Putin or the Iranian leader kills a general in the US, UK or any of our allies?
People moaning about trump blowing up a terrorist yet say nothing about the Iranians blowing up a passenger plane... Pathetic.
Well for me the decision to allow civilian aircraft to fly was ridiculous.yes, some human made an error in judgement and was trigger happy. But if it was not deliberate then by default it is accidental, no?
I believe the disagreement is more about some feeling there are mitigating circumstances for Iran shooting the plane down (ie US killing Soleimaini) and others feeling this is not a mitigating circumstance.Up to your usual twisted logic here.
I don't see anyone in this thread defending the Iranians for bringing down the plane.
Not quite. The aircraft was shot down because the Iranian air defence was on heightened alert due to anticipated US retaliation following the Iranian strikes on the US Iraqi bases the day before (which, of course, was revenge for the US missile strike).it was simply a mistake by the Iranian operators that could have happened at any time.
And that Sabre rattling only started with the assassination? Come on Iran is not innocent here at all. They’ve been at it for decades.Not quite. The aircraft was shot down because the Iranian air defence was on heightened alert due to anticipated US retaliation following the Iranian strikes on the US Iraqi bases the day before (which, of course, was revenge for the US missile strike).
The downing of the airliner was a tragic consequence of the sabre rattling between Iran and the US.
And that Sabre rattling only started with the assassination? Come on Iran is not innocent here at all. They’ve been at it for decades.
They could have chosen not to retaliate so they would not have had to be so scared. They could also have chosen to do their job and not fire and shoot at their own people.
Quite a few are making out Trump is guilty though.not one person on his thread has said that Iran is innocent.
Perhaps read again what I wrote I did not suggest that anyone suggested Iran was innocent in shooting down that plane.not one person on his thread has said that Iran is innocent. Many have said that shooting of the aircraft was an accident, which is probably was in a time of heightened anxiety brought on by both the US and Iran.
Quite a few are making out Trump is guilty though.
The irony!So what? They are both guilty!
Perhaps read again what I wrote I did not suggest that anyone suggested Iran was innocent in shooting down that plane.
Not quite. The aircraft was shot down because the Iranian air defence was on heightened alert due to anticipated US retaliation following the Iranian strikes on the US Iraqi bases the day before (which, of course, was revenge for the US missile strike).
The downing of the airliner was a tragic consequence of the sabre rattling between Iran and the US.
BBC now running with it.Another happy person from Iran.
MSN
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"Let me start with a greeting, a farewell or condolences, I am one of the millions of oppressed women in Iran who they have been playing with for years."
"They took me wherever they wanted. I wore whatever they said. Every sentence they ordered me to say, I repeated. Whenever they saw fit, they exploited me," she wrote, adding that credit always went to those in charge.
"I wasn't important to them. None of us mattered to them, we were tools," Alizadeh goes on to say, explaining that while the regime celebrated her medals, it criticized the sport she had chosen: "The virtue of a woman is not to stretch her legs!"
Alizadeh confirmed the rumors Saturday, saying she "didn't want to sit at the table of hypocrisy, lies, injustice and flattery" and that she did not want to be complicit with the regime's "corruption and lies."
"My troubled spirit does not fit with your dirty economic ties and tight political lobbies. I wish for nothing else than for Taekwondo, safety and for a happy and healthy life, she said adding that she was not invited to go to Europe.
She said the decision was harder than winning Olympic gold. "I remain a daughter of Iran wherever I am," she said.