iPronto & Sky+

[nrmsmith]

Being a total novice to this type of device (Pronto's), I have searched but can't find control profile (CCF?) for Sky+ ??

Does a download exist anywhere?

Thanks
Nigel

 

[rosbif]

www.remotecentral.com - you will normally be better of downloading someones complete ccf and then just copying over the sky+bits...

 

[bobgriffiths]

I just posted one on remote central it will take a Few days to be loaded on the server there wasnt a seperate SKY plus file in the seperate component files( EDIT there were but i didnt see them).
i urge anyone with a CCF to post it .Remote central is mainly USA products we need more of a UK presense come on guys we need you

 

[KW1816]

I just posted one on remote central it will take a Few days to be loaded on the server there wasnt a seperate SKY plus file in the seperate component files.

That's funny - I just found 32 different Sky plus CCF's

Link

Not enough ?

Cheers
Kevin.

 

[Messiah]

Yep, one of those is probably mine. ben there for months and months.

 

[bobgriffiths]

NO if you read my post carefully Seperate component files not complete set ups i think there are only two or three truly seperate files these are much easier for a novice to intergrate into there own ccf for eg if you have several macros or volume for your amp on your complete ccf these are also copied when you copy device and if you merge the files it can completely mess up your ccf if you havent saved a copy of your last ccf .Also they are listed under Pace which a lot of people dont realise as all Sky boxes use the same sky remote and all sky plus boxes use the same sky plus remote .It seems sense to list the codes under SKY .I have seen lots and lots of posts of people looking for the files and they cant find them even though they are there (me included).

Also you DID NOT find 32 different sky plus ccf's look at your own link carefully 10ish files are Sky plus (which most are parts of a system)the rest are channel logos and ordinary sky which as you must know has a different code.

Often people starting with pronto 's havent used a pc to do anything more than playing games searching for porn buy CDs etc


They find this programming remote stuff very hard. and often give up .often i think people with some knowledge often forget this.I remember how hard it was for me to pick up and how fustrating it was .
All i am trying to do is make it easier for beginners and your average joe .

Ps i think this is a better link

http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bi...onto&db=devices&br=pace&dv=dssreceiverdvr&fc=


Out of the totally seperate ones they dont have channels logo selection with the correct delays

one of the seperate files has the sky plus device in a macro group not even as a normal device this would confuse a newbie

one looked quite good(messiah this yours?) and i have to admit i missed that one when i first looked

no wonder novices are finding it hard to find a good ccf so yeah the more ccfs posted the better.

 

[Messiah]

Originally posted by bobgriffiths
(messiah this yours?)

Probably not Mine is part of a complete CCF and posted under the name wattsn. It does have button shapes to match those off the original though. Good ol' scanner

 

[rosbif]

Just had to tag onto the end of this as there are some knowledgable people watching the thread!

I have SKY+ and am just fiddling about getting my Pronto to work. I thought I had problems in that the digits linked to channel logos were not working properly, and the remote seemed to be intermittent. Trouble is, the original remote seemed to do the same! Even stranger though - there was no such problem when viewing the EPG!

I have now managed to narrow down the problem - I use a one for all 'sender' to send IR signals from upstairs down to the sky+ box so we can change channels etc. This has a small IR extender which I place in front of the SKY+ box. Trouble is, when the SKY+ box is on, the receiver seems to be receiving signals all the time as the red light on the receiver is flashing all the time. When I switch the SKY+ box to the EPG, it stops!!! If I turn off the SKY+ box it stops!! There is no physical connection between the SKY+ box and the sender as I only use it for the IR, not for the picture signal..

This has got me totally flummoxed - can anyone shed any light on what I can do?

 

[Messiah]

IR extenders generally have an adjustment screw to reduce/increase the continual IR send that they give out. Turn it down a bit and your problem should cease.

 

[rosbif]

Boy you are here more reguarly than me!!!

AFAICS there is no adjustment screw - this is a very odd problem. The sender seems to be reacting to the SKY+ box, even though it is not plugged in to it! If I plug the IR eye into the sender (this is the eye that transmits the IR signal to the SKY box) and the SKY+ box is switched on, the sender starts flashing. If I unplug the IR eye, it stops and if I put the SKY+ box onto the EPG it stops...

Totally confused (and desperate to get this working as it is doing my head in!)

 

[Messiah]

Try moving the eye further away.

 

[rosbif]

Bizzarre - even if the eye is out of line of site of the SKY box it is still picking up a signal from somewhere. And if I switch onto the EPG it disappears. At the moment the wire from the sender to the IR eye runs under the SKY box - could that be picking something up?

 

[KW1816]

Also you DID NOT find 32 different sky plus ccf's look at your own link carefully 10ish files are Sky plus (which most are parts of a system)the rest are channel logos and ordinary sky which as you must know has a different code.

Guilty as charged y'r honour
That'll teach me to be a smart arse !

I think you have a point about the individual components, but I think the problem is that the Pronto is so flexible that a lot of peoples CCF's are designed in such a way that using individual bits is difficult because they link to other bits you may not want.

Mine is set up so that all the actual codes are stored in a Macro panel and are aliased from the actual panel you see, it's also not set out like a copy of the original remotes, lots of panels have buttons for several devices - which is the real strenght of the Pronto.
BTW: The reason for putting devices or codes in the macro side is so they don't show on the devices drop down list - in effect they are hidden.

The big problem with Prontoedit is that you can't cut and paste from one CCF to another - this would make it so much easier.

This is one area (and I never though I'd say this ) where ProntoeditNG is better.

There is a strong demand for Philips to develop a decent tutorial for programming - although there are some user written ones out there.

Cheers
Kevin.

 

[bobgriffiths]

rosbif here are a few suggestions to your problem

1. I would definitely move the wire from the eye from under the sky box and try that.

2. Have you used the supplied clip on RF chokes on the mains cable for your Panasonic Plasma? If not do.

3. Is the eye near your plasma? If you plasma is "on" this can send out signals that the eye sees .Xantech make eyes that are sunlight and plasma proof because this is a real problem if your plasma is off well it isn’t that.

4.Are your power and signal cables (rf Scart phono etc)tied up together (cable ties, tape etc)on your system often this can cause mains bound interference try to separate them I know this makes it untidy but often gives better picture and sound and less interference problems

Sounds a very weird problem hope you solve it .If you do please let us know.

KW1816 I agree training would be good. Pronto programming is hard to get right I bet you like me are still tweaking your own system.

There are so many ways of creating CCf's this is there strong point and there weakness I don’t think there is a right way just a right way that works for you.

New comers tend to find the aliased button approach confusing as they can’t instantly see the IR code to copy onto which ever button they want (although aliasing is much better on memory as you know) but both ways work this makes it very confusing.
I have read over the years dozens of people who have just given up and started shouting about how can Philips release a product with no back up support etc.

I was thrown in the deep end and had to programme one for a customer for a company I worked for .I remember staying up to the early hours in the morning for Two weeks struggling to get it half decent. I look back at that file now and it’s a joke!

Remote central is very U.S based (don’t hold it against them) and the guys there are the best at what they do.
Anyone with a pronto HAS to go there and have a good look.

On the files section we should have more UK products .I am as guilty as any one of not posting (starting to remedy this)

Thanks to all who have helped me and continue to help others .

 

[nrmsmith]

Originally posted by KW1816
That's funny - I just found 32 different Sky plus CCF's

Link

Not enough ?

Cheers
Kevin.

Do these work on the iPronto though?

Nigel

 

[Messiah]

The codes would but you'll need to redseign the screens.

 

[nrmsmith]

Regarding CCF's and ICF's.

If I want to use part of someones complete ICF file, is this the procedure to use:

1. Load the ICF. Delete all sections not wanted and resave.

2. Load my ICF and merge the ICF from (1) to pull in the component device(s) I need.

(apologies if this all sounds newbie, but it would be nice if Philips provided some decent tutorial material for the software....)

Cheers
Nigel