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ipod - firewire or USB2

Discussion in 'Headphones, Earphones & Portable Music' started by Fat Tony, Dec 21, 2004.

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  1. Fat Tony

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    I'm getting the 20gb ipod, but this needs either firewire or USB2 to transfer music to it. As I have neither on my 2 year old pc, does anyone know which one would be better?

    Also, can I actually use USB1 ports to charge my ipod and transfer files (I realise it will be very slow, if it works)?
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    i dont think USB 1 works tony cos i tried and it didnt work. i had to buy a firewire pci card form the apple store. im not to sure which one works out best.
     
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    If all you are going to use the USB2.0 or firewire port for is to transfer music to an MP3 player then there will be no real difference between the two.
    If however you have a digital camcorder then you will also be able to use a firewire port to copy the video onto the PC for editing. Or if you have a USB2.0 scanner etc then you will get more use from USB2.0
    Or you can get a card with both type of ports on it and chop & change.

    Mark.
     
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    USB 2 cards come reasonably cheaply from most computer shops and are plug and play if you have XP. If you don't have XP check that your OS supports USB 2. I use USB and the transfer speed is very quick.
    The main difference between firewire and USB is that when plugged into the firewire port the iPod with charge, but you need to use a mains converter with USB. The cradle for this should be in the box, but you will know better than me.
     
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    Simon is right. The iPod should come with a cradle and also a Firewire cable.

    I have used USB2 on my laptop but now use Firewire on my main PC. I didn't notice any difference in "speed", but then again I wasn't really looking :)

    The only advantage I see is that the iPod with charge via Firewire whilst USB2 also needs a power cable
     
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    I just ordered a Belkin USB2.0 and Firewire card from Amazon. Do a search for Firewire at the Amazon site for the item. This way you get the best of both worlds ;-)
     
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    The ipod charges through USB2 as well, no difference with Firewire there.
     
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    You don't get a cradle with the 20Gb iPod anymore, but you do get the cables

    You could use USB1, but it'll be painful so get a cheap USB / Firewire card. USB2 is probably more appropriate if you're likely to get more external devices for the PC. Firewire is pretty much the standard for Camcorders though (DV)
     
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    Don't know about the 4G, but my mates 3G iPod definately didn't work over USB 1.1, popped up some message about it being a hi-speed USB device, this was in winXP. I agree it would be painful waiting for tunes to sync over USB 1.1 anyway!
     
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    4G works on USB 1 & 2.

    Though it's a complete waste of time even trying USB 1.
     
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    Firewire = 400Mbps
    USB 2 = 480Mbps
    "Hi Speed" USB 2 = "up to 10% fast than USB 2"

    I guess a lot depends on your device as well.
     
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    USB2 is upto 40x faster than USB1.

    Even though it is quoted as *upto* 480mps that does not mean it is faster than Firewire at 400mps. This depends on your PC set up and the fact that USB speeds are not maintained at that high rate during any transfer where as firewire is.
     
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    Thanks everyone. I'm little more clued-up, now!

    Waser - can I check that this card (the model no. on Amazon site is F5U508ea) also charges up the ipod. Is it easy to fit for a novice?
     
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    It'll charge it.

    Both have a 5V output line to power devices if required.
     
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    Fat Tony, that's the right model number. Not sure about whether it charges the iPod as well. I haven't received the card yet. Darn Xmas delivery times. I would assume so.

    PCI cards are the easiest upgrade for a novice. Just pop open your PC case. Have a look for the row of PCI slots. They should be marked on the motherboard as such but you can't really miss them. Most MOBOs have about 4 as a minimum. If you have a soundcard or graphics card they will most likely be plugged in to one of these slots. All you have to do is slide the Card in as the instructions say. Win XP should prompt you for the rest the next time you start your PC. I'd suggest opening your PC to have a look before purchasing, if you want to feel a bit more comfortable about it.
     
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    I've always found Firewire to be quicker and more reliable than USB2 even though USB2 is quoted as being faster.
    I use the Firewire port on the drive part of my Creative Audigy2 sound card and it works perfectly with the Ipod.
     
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    I just got a 4G model and I'd say the USB 2.0 charges too.

    But be careful with which port you connect to, I originally used a front-mounted connector but I got read/write errors all over the place until I plugged it in round the back ! Stupid mobo.
     

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