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Interesting Arcam CD33 Review in Hi-Fi Choice...

Discussion in 'Hi-Fi Stereo Systems & Separates' started by warrj, Sep 10, 2003.

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  1. warrj

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    ...which implied that the old RingDAC-based CD23 was a better player. I always thought it would turn out to be a 'classic' player since IMHO it was a bargain considering the technology involved.

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    Even though I bought a Naim CD player to match my other stuff, the best sound I've heard from any CD player would be that Arcam. I think Arcam are particularly skilled designing CD players. They make you feel many hours have been spent obtaining the finest listening experience.
    If Arcam have decided to move on from Ring DAC, I would be inclined to try the new player regardless of magazine comments.
    Why would they change otherwise ? :cool:
     
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    Good question. I wonder if DCS pulled the rug from under Arcam.

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    I've always got on with Cyrus CD players more than Arcam (hence why I went for a CD8) but as I understand it Arcam were the first people to tap dSC up for the ring DAC technology (in the alpha 9) but now use Wolfson (a scottish IC design firm) for up-sampling DACs (i.e. 192 kHz)., so I don't think dSC left them, it was the other way around.
     
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    Let's step up another level to Meridian players:cool:


    Adz
     
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    [Let's step up another level to Meridian players QUOTE]


    Your right mate - I'm now hearing what CD should sound like

    Meridian 500 transport to

    Meridian 518 Digital Processor to

    Meridian 566 24bit DAC to

    Meridian M60 actives


    The DAC feeding the speakers direct makes for a very detailed sound - love it
     
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    I find it interesting that according to what I've seen on the net, the el cheapo harman/kardon DVD25 uses the same Wolfson WM8740 DAC's as the mighty Arcam CD33 (!).
     
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    Wolfson's DACs have been getting a lot of praise in the industry, and they've become very popular very fast. DACs aren't expensive (like around £15 per chip, at most), though, so there's no reason why a budget player couldn't have the same DACs as a high-end player. It would just have to skimp a lot elsewhere, or maybe just sell a lot more units than the high end player - or both. Doesn't mean the HK performs as well as the Arcam (but it's possible...)

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    According to the Wolfson website one _might_ cost something like $200. However, your comment is valid the DAC itself being only one of the components.

    EDIT: typos
     
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    Even more so the CD9 that came before it. CD9 and CD23 are superb - why Arcam ditched the RingDAC for the 33 I've no idea. IMO the CD33 is merely ordinary compared to the CD23 and CD9.

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    Good point. The debate over the relative importants of DACs really hotted up with the first 1bit/256Over Sampling players in the early nineties. Meridian amongst others played down it's overall importance back then, and still do now. The build quality of high end products and the use of quality components across the board makes the difference.

    Take a ganders at the internals of Audio Researchs new AV power amp the 150M. No skimping in there matey!!:)
     

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