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Insomnia - HELP - suggestions for good sleep required.

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by CooperUK, Jun 6, 2005.

  1. CooperUK

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    Hi all,

    I've been suffering from 'brainburn' as i call it, when my brain just goes into overdrive and I can't 'empty my mind' before going to sleep.

    I'm not suffering from any particularly stressful events, AFAIK, but don't seem to be able to get more than 3-4 hours sleep. Last night I got about 30 mins sleep and spent the rest of the night wide awake!

    Feel like poop at the moment and would welcome suggestion from fellow insomniacs who kicked the red-eye.

    :boring:
     
  2. Nobber22

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    Have a shag. Puts me out like a light right afterwards. :smashin:
     
  3. CooperUK

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    Sorry Nobber (unfortunate that you, with that name should make the comment) - you're not my type.

    :devil:
     
  4. Solomon Grundy

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    get a new bed.
     
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    Nobber22 has the right idea though. A shag or hand shandy releases chemicals highly conducive to sleep.

    Otherwise the best bet is to establish a routine.

    Mine routine is to read in bed for 20 minutes before sleep. This relaxes my body, and gives my brain something else to think about other than the daily grind.

    And it may be a cliche, but hot milk or cocoa can help too.
     
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    Chocolarte Horlicks + war and peace. Knocks me out every time. :D
     
  7. eviljohn2

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    Definitely agree about reading. I just read until I can't really concentrate on the words or have to skip back a bit in the text because I was just skimming, it really calms the brain down.

    Alternatively, drinking until I virtually pass out usually has me asleep in no time but I wouldn't recommend that in your case...

    Crucially, avoid watching TV or using the computer or anything like that for an hour or so before going to bed - get some headphones and read the paper or something that doesn't require too much effort. :)
     
  8. overkill

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    :eek: Squiffy! I'm surprised at you! :D

    Reading really is a good bet. I can't sleep unless I've read for a while. And had my chocolate Horlicks........
     
  9. Solomon Grundy

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    listen to the radio too, your local BBC station should do the trick. We have some woman called Alex Hall, it is an interesting show but I can't keep awake when I listen to her.
     
  10. Squiffy

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    Obviously being a monk, that doesn't apply to me. I was simply relating scientific fact, and not personal experience..... :cool:
     
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    I had the same problem about two years ago, and whilst a "shag" is a also a great idea (and my prefered method of sleep) at the time this was not an option!

    My doctor suggested a few things, tried em did not work, then She suggested Accupuncture.

    Now i am terrified of needles, but after MUCH persuasion i was at the end of my tether and agreed.

    I was amazed, and after a few sessions, i was sleeping like a baby!!!!

    Just after the first session, I had to call someone to pick me up as i could not focus on driving.

    Normally I would not believe in this "mumbo Jumbo" but hell it worked a treat for me!

    Sleep deprivation is horrid, hope you sort it out

    J
     
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    Recently as part of a 'try to live healthy and exercise' thing I'm going through, I've started doing a bunch of situps and pushups just before bed. After about 50 of those I've found I go to sleep much more quickly than in the past and wake up slightly more refreshed.

    In fact over the last two weeks, I've only been late to work three times (a new record).
     
  13. JUS

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    Yea, exercise is the key...go to the gym on the way back home.

    If you've got loads on your mind take a pen and pad to bed. Then right everything down. Stops my brain from continually going round in circles.

    Jus.
     
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    I have suffered a sleep disorder a few years back. I found it immensley difficult to get to sleep and then, irrespective of what time i went to bed, I always woke up at 3.14am........without fail (even if i went to bed at 2am out of my tree!) with my mind turning round at 100mph

    Turns out I was suffering from stress and endegenous depression :eek:

    I'm not saying that this is the case with you but it took a long course of drugs to calm me down.

    As far as pure insomnia is concerned, some of the suggestions here are spot on, the radio suggestion is a particularly good one as you need something to stop your mind whizzing and relaxing music or boring 'talk' (with the volume only just audible) should have you nodding off in no time.

    Personally, i find a good :smoke: half an hour before turning in does the trick with me ;) Not that I would condone the use of illegal substances in any way, obviously :D
     
  15. GalacticaActual

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    There are various legal herbal remedies for promoting natural sleep.

    I know tablets are not really a cure all, but I have found that calms tablets from your local pharmacy can do wounders.
     
  16. Mr.D

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    On occasion I get the odd epriod of insomnia. I find two things very helpful.

    1. Don't worry about it . Don't dwell on how ineffective you'll be at work the next day . Unless you are flying a plane or operating on someone's brain the loss of one night's sleep will do little other than make you feel a bit tired. Tell people you're fighting off a cold if they remark about your tiredness.

    2. Stay up. Forget about going to bed , in fact deliberately resist going to sleep. Carry on through to the next day as normal (you will be very tired by the end of it). Stay up until your usual bedtime the following night and you will be out like a light. Don't oversleep get a normal night's rest. ( try not to hit the coffee and fags too much to get you through it though)

    Resets your body clock and gets you back into a normal sleep routine.

    If you find you still cannot sleep after being up for over 24 hours you might need to consider some medical help.

    Sometimes it can be dietry . Try a good vitamin and mineral supplement.(centrum or something). Cutting down on any evening drinking can also help.
     
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    I've always suffered from insomnia in one way, shape or form for as long as I can remember and I've tried most of these suggestions and many more! I find Mr D's method for resetting the body clock works, but only once then it goes tit's up again 2 nights later. Alcohol in large quantities) helps but its expensive and you wake up even more tired and feeling like ****!

    I've learned a little about meditation so sometimes I'll do that to relax my mind, which then helps me fall to sleep easier.
    Reading before bed is probably my prefered method though!

    Consequently, I went to the doctor about it once and he had me see someone else etcand they did some test's and it turns out that at the time (and possibly still now) I was suffering from no less that 4 sleep disorders!
    Not getting to sleep
    Once asleep, waking up several times
    "Restless legs" (oyu know the one, where you keep fidgeting and stuff)
    Jolting awake (where you are just dropping off to sleep then you feel like you are falling so you awake with a jump).

    The only thing that has really changed and helped me to sleep, is me! When I get stressed I lose the ability to sleep, then I lose my appitite so I've tried to learn to be a bit more chilled out and not so much of a stress bunny!
     
  18. Bristol Pete

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    Sounds like you were having what is known as a micro sleep. There is a great feature on the DVD 'Insomnia' about sleep disorder and the problems it can cause...........

    Pete.
     
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    I've made up a 4 hour DVD of a program called Joy Of Painting and edited out all the theme music and adverts. The bloke who presents this (Bob Ross - may he rest in peace) has a voice that sends me to sleep without fail. It does mean that the telly is on all night though, but it's a small price to pay for a good nights sleep :)
     
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    Good point, I never thought of that :blush: I shall have a look later !
     
  22. Bristol Pete

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    But can you paint like Bob Ross yet????!?!?
     
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    No but I know all of his catch phrases off by heart :D We don't make mistakes, we just have happy little accidents ;)
     
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    Alcohol may put you to sleep but it will be counter active as it will wake you in the night or make you feel worse the next day.

    If you wake during the night do not fret that you cannot get back to sleep lying in bed peaceful will still do you good and you will eventually get back off even if it takes 2 hours, if you do not worry the next time you wake you will get of again quicker till waking and falling asleep will only take a matter of seconds.

    Routine is a great thing and going to bed at the same time help, sometime if you can get some sleeping pills of a doctor and take them for a few nights then cut down on the till you are not taking them at all can help get you into this routine,

    I also believe eating a banana can help release chemicals that help sleep.

    I found if I can have a short nap at lunch time it reduces my stress levels for the rest of the day thus giving me an easier time getting of at night.
     
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    Try a little exercise...eat some lettuce (trust me, it works)...get a massage (not as expensive as you might think)...but definitely go and see your quack - just because you can't identify what's causing "stress" (a good catch-all that covers a multitude of ills), it doesn't mean you're not suffering from it.

    Failing that, go and see Revenge of the Sith and have a good kip in the cinema!
     
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    Yes I was going to come back on that and suggest massage with some carrier oil and some essential oils mixed in (lavender, chamomile, sweet marjoram) by someone who knows about the subject.
     
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    I've found that going to therapy groups really help, let's me have a good cry, and then i sleep like a baby. Only thing is that recently there's been this lass called Marla Singer who's started showing up at my blood parasites group, and it's starting to spoil things..................
     
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    I find that sitting in a comfy chair and listening to some classical music does the trick.
     
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    20 minutes of Yoga (not Yoda) will help prepare you to sleep like a baby
     
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    Even a Yoda hand shandy? ;)
     

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