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SirDoss

Novice Member
Ok guys, after months of having hassle with my LG set and having it sent off for repair it has finally come back from repair still faulty which has finally entitled me to a new TV set from Curry's (although I shouldn't count my chickens until I'm walking out of store with a new set). I called in tonight and was told we could go and have a look at what else we wanted in exchange. I immediately walked over to the Panny 42PX60 and had decided that due to the general feeling on here, that should be the one, when a sales person walked over and asked if I needed help. Normally I'd have sent him away due to the Curry's sales staff's general lack of knowledge when it comes to electrical goods, however I just thought I'd ask him what he would buy given a budget of £1200 - £1300 and a screen size of 40" or 42" just out of interest. Straight away and I must say with what did seem like genuine interest he took me straight over to the Samsung 40R73 40" lcd and basically raved about it. At this I mentioned the Panny to him but he was adamant that this is the set I should go for. Now the thing that made me wonder is the Panny was £100 more, which means the Samsung would be a straight swap and it is also worth taking note that they no longer earn commision so I don't think there was any hidden agenda. I have to be honest before my LG plasma I had 2 LCD sets from Currys (long story) one being a Matsui and the other an Erae and apart from the Erae not handling dark scenes too well they both had a much better picture than the LG plasma, both were more vibrant and seemed to stand out more where the LG seems a bit lifeless. My only complaint with the LCD sets were the ghosting on fast movements but even they weren't too bad. My point is I need your comments, I'm still leaning towards the Panny but this lad has made me wonder. Also don't be afraid to make any different suggestions (I think I already know where this will lead). By the way the set will be mainly used for watching DVD's using a Cambridge Audio DVD86 via HDMI and for playing on an Xbox 360. Thanks
 

chaparral

Well-known Member
I have to be honest before my LG plasma I had 2 LCD sets from Currys (long story) one being a Matsui and the other an Erae and apart from the Erae not handling dark scenes too well they both had a much better picture than the LG plasma, both were more vibrant and seemed to stand out more where the LG seems a bit lifeless. My only complaint with the LCD sets were the ghosting on fast movements but even they weren't too bad.
In all mag reviews i have seen on LG plasma's..They have always knocked them for PQ with SD..
The same can be said of many people on this forum which have compare the LG plasma's to a panny or pioneer plasma..

LG is a budget brand and you get what you pay for...

You need to compare for yourself the PQ of panny/pioneer plasma against any LCD you may be interested in...
Why Listen to a Curry's sale staff ??? I would go by my own eyes and not something elses..

For xbox360 use i would go for the pioneer plasma..as many people have not been happy with green flashes on there panny plasma while xbox360 gaming..
 

SirDoss

Novice Member
The problem with shopping in Currys is the feeds are awful so you really can't tell until you get home although I may try and get them to let me take my DVD player in and hook up to a couple of screens. I just wondered what anyone else had to say really. At the end of the day I'm not going to jump into anything without making the final decision myself regardless of what anyone says, it's just nice to be pointed in the right direction. The guy in Curry's just got me wondering as he was absolutely adamant that the Sammy LCD was the better set.

I have heard about this green tinging on the Panasonic when playing Xbox games so I must admit that has made me wary as I really cannot have another set changed or my wife will divorce me.........there again. Seriously though isn't the Pioneer plasma twice the price as the Panasonic?
 

Piers

Active Member
The guy in Curry's seems to be more knowledgeable than many in similar stores but sorry to say, I have yet to see an LCD of 40" plus that holds a candle to a good plasma.

Motion smear, poor black levels, uneven backlighting, and most of all a "digital look" put me off. Equally, there are poor plasmas out there and it sounds like you have "been there and done that".

The obvious problem is that you are going to have to get a replacement from Curry's (unless you can get a refund).

I have calibrated a couple of PX60s, got a great picture from them, and saw none of the "purple snakes" that seem to have been filling this forum. I did see minor problems with colour banding but you get this with plasmas even twice the price.

Feed a plasma a good signal and the picture will look good (hence the reason that very poor plasmas sell well in the non-specialist stores, their demo material is top quality). Feed a poor signal into a relatively cheap plasma (PX60) and you may see things in the image that you don't like. Do the same with a very expensive plasma (Fujitsu 58 series) and it looks OK.

If you had cash in hand rather than an exchange offer the answer IMHO would be a Panasonic PD9 - Curry's won't stock that so you are forced back to the PX60. Unless it has changed substantially in the past 3 months (since I last calibrated one) that's the one I would go for.
 

chaparral

Well-known Member
Just checked, the Pioneer is £1799 instore price, basically out of my price range.
web exclusive £1,405.00
instore price £1,799.99
Ouch :eek:

I have calibrated a couple of PX60s, got a great picture from them, and saw none of the "purple snakes" that seem to have been filling this forum. I did see minor problems with colour banding but you get this with plasmas even twice the price..
Piers...Am guessing that these people that have seen these purple snakes on the pannys are only seeing this with very low bitrate signals..
 

SirDoss

Novice Member
Cheers Piers, that does help a lot. It is a shame that I haven't got cash in hand but to be honest I'm just relieved to be getting anything at all and even at the moment it is all on the Customer Service Manager in Curry's getting some kind of authorisation from LG to swap sets so I'm not home and dry yet. Saying that after a bit of arguing before, I did ask her if I will be getting my set swapped and she replied yes so I'm pretty sure even if LG won't play ball she'll have to let me swap because she has already said so. God only knows. But point is I'll be more than happy to just get an instore swap.
 

Piers

Active Member
My guess too as to the "purple snakes" but there seem to be enough folk out there complaining about them that I am treading carefully. Feed a really low bit-rate signal into a top-of-the-range plasma and you will see something very similar.
 

SirDoss

Novice Member
Damn it!!! Just as I thought my TV life was getting simpler I've now read some of the threads and seen a video clip regarding the panny PX60 and about this green tinging problem on the Xbox 360. This has seriously made me think twice about buying this set as that will really annoy me. I wish I could afford the Pioneer. I think I am gonna have to try and demo my player on some LCD's after all as the more I read about the Panasonic the more I'm starting to think it isn't that great a set after all. I have to say though that possibly the best picture I have ever seen on a plasma running SD TV was a Samsung down at the local pub. Me and my wife marvelled at the PQ compared to our LG set. Does anyone have any opinions on Sammy plasmas? (not sure what model it was). Why does this have to be so complicated?
 

SirDoss

Novice Member
I don't think they'll allow me to order online, it'll have to be a store purchase. I will try and get them to let me order online or even better a refund would be the best but I doubt I'll get anywhere. I'm getting really confused as to what I'm going to end up with as I really thought I would have been going with the Panasonic but I really don't think I can take the chance. I could really do with some suggestions. Does anyone have an opinion on a decent rear projection set?
 

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