So, here's the messages.
Me: Hi. It came up in the app saying the speakers have been delivered. They haven't. I was just wondering if you have a tracking number or details of where they've been delivered to?
Him:
Hi Matt
In accordance to discounting the entire postage I'd said these would not go off quickly & in fact they will leave on Monday for say a Wednesday delivery. As for the APP here on eBay everyone is reporting this problem of misinformation delivery so I'd just ignore that. I had to mark them as despatched as eBay gives notices, but what its saying is systemically flawed & eBay know. But anyway the tracking will go on from Monday the they leave. Its also a mammoth packing job with a speaker of this kind you see. |
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Me: (on the Thursday) -
Hi Cameron. Is there any chance I can get that tracking number please? I just want to make sure that someone is in when they come.
Thanks.
Him:
Hi Matt
Yes its been a bugger this with Obstacles Obstacles with this package.
All the couriers have put their prices up very recently I now know. Where as I have sent this model many times at 28.00, I now cannot get a quote under 60 GBP for it. The package weighs more than 40 kg with a decent packing job done and is over 100 CM's in length. On top of this I'm having to supervise stuff from a distance at present. Its still possible i might find something around 30. I'll keep trying Matt and not give up. \But paying over 60 plus vat is out of the question given we make very little on these 752's and
shipping matter with them is no joke tbh - 40KG through the post is an awesome weight and this new price hike is going to completely change what we can send I think.
Anyway I'll get back Matt - something in the way of a doable quote might turn up when I search other couriers & engines
Regards - Cameron
Me:
Hi Cameron.
I appreciate you've got issues but I was expecting them last Friday and after speaking to you, you said I'd get them this Wednesday which has now been and gone.
As I said, I appreciate you've got issues with couriers but this really doesn't have anything to do with me. I paid the agreed price which included £18 for shipping. With my company, if pricing for shipping had changed after we had an agreement and especially after we'd taken payment, we'd take the hit and adjust our prices accordingly for the next customer.
I don't want to go down the road of asking for a refund and looking elsewhere as I've already missed out on other speakers that I was watching.
Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks.
Matt.
Him: (This was when it went rapidly downhill) -
You hnow have a stinking attitude is my thoughts mate. You didn't pay didn't any postage as you came to me and wanted it off and got that exact figure off the cost. The postage that was assigned to this listing was removed from the price of the speakers = FREE and you know that. They've actually gone and it cost us 60 pounds to send them of to you. You may think you have a case for being annoyed but haven't. You are doing that I think by allowing yourself to believe that posting 40 KG is northing - easy. You even seem to think you paid. Nowyou are moaning ands putting a spot. By accommodating you postage OFF happened at the worst time as I had no idea they'd hiked the prices & done this to a size we send quite a lot.. I was already about to pay 28 plus vat as a matter of cause anyway - not 18 mate and that was the previous cost of 40 KG and I didn't say a word that it would be more than shown originally.
Don't wind us up please mate -n you've used some mind games on yourself to turn this into your offence. You have no consideration for the way I got stuck in a jam with inflated postage.
We are in Fleetwood on Saturday and would come and get them. I am really angry that you'd come with a sob story about about post off then come out with that stuff even claiming you paid post and taking your attitude is disgisting.
We tyake grace office when treated like this by people.
It cost 60 quid to honour the matter after price increase problems as described. Now you expwxt to kick us in the b**** as well ?
Don't mess with us please - just don't. we are Scots as well.
Cameron.
Me:
Cameron
Can you send me the tracking number please?
Him:
You have voided the transaction by lying about postage matters. Similarly by making up a set of convenient to your agenda bartificial ad hominem style beliefs. You've insulted me by implacation for having the neck to show like that. And you expected to be patronising. Whatever way you might have thought you had the perfect standpoint to claim postage cost was involved you this is not a court where that shall matter.Take it to the place where that could default negative technicality if you wish. Right here Matt you will find that tools like cases or NFB are of no concern to me once someone has insulted me like you have . Do whatever you like with those & I'll just see what happens.
When they arrive please refuse them at the door. I do not do any form of transaction with liars due to the simple reason that the rationale leads to fraud in too many cases.
Ok Matt ? - don't take them in n- refuse them - and when they arrive back you get a full refund - without post you didn't pay ofc.
rewriting the narrati9ve to suit eBay typee blackmail. But worst of all made the crucial mistake of claiming you'd paid post by. Then use negative feedback of whatever you like with Ebay.
You lied. tried it on with me, the transaction is OVER.
Me:
This is one of the most ridiculous ebay transactions I've ever been involved in. Why are you getting offended by me asking for a tracking number?
Let's just clear a few things up. I contacted you and asked you if you'd take £200 for the speakers. You had them for sale for £195 plus £18P&P. That comes to £213. You sent me the offer for £182 plus £18 P&P. It's right there in black and white. You knocked off £13 from the speakers and the P&P remained the same at £18. Delivery when I paid was 3 to 5 days. I then got an alert saying they had been delivered which you told me to ignore. I then asked for a tracking number and you told me about your issues with the courier companies. I then told you, politely, where I stood and the messages from you since have been utterly ridiculous. I don't believe you ever had any intention of sending them and if you have, you wouldn't begrudge giving me the tracking number. Everything is documented, I can't possibly see how think you're being hard done to.
Him:
Our convertsation is over since they are defaming lies
There was delay and a major predicament caused due to a big price hike on shipping for parcels of these dimensions. Particularly in a setting where you'd had the last any last remnants of post cost removed after iu had list almost half price post already. You then decided to play games and claim you paid something just so you could create issues.
I am giving you formal legal notice that this transaction is Void. We do not have recognise brersches of trust such as those, not listen to false claims concerning post funds it as a transaction as you made false representations about paying post.
This transaction is Void please refuse it at the door as we are not doing a transaction whilst being treated like this.
Regards
Me:
Please send me a tracking number. Thanks.
Him:
The tracking number is private as this isn't a bone fide transaction any longer. All you have to do is refuse delivery and either me personally, or if you prefer the platform shall do so. If you have not opened them = refused there is no issue is there. Thatbpackage is bound up with heavy duty protection like a tank. It took two hours to pack and would take a surprising amount of time to undo. I advise onto return it untouched - get that fact on the system - and the drivers signature on your paper according to that fact or whatever you choose. If it is opened that will be the problem obviously. If it does not pass the threshold of your door and has a document, then no matter what you'd get refunded as you didn't even touch it witnessed by the courier.
It comes back here in that way = you get refunded in full for the identical figure you paid - identical - you were given a post free cost FREE. You get the same amount you paid back but - actually - no post was Paid was it MATT ?
I paid ot it and you are violating GDPR by expecting information linked to matter you cannot prove you paid for unless you try your luck in some court. Where they will have to work with how you did this - won't they MATT.
Just send that parcel back please.
Me:
Why would I send back a pair of speakers that I was quite happy to pay for? If they turn up, I'll be keeping them. But they won't turn up because you haven't sent them. You need to accept the fact that I paid the postage as advertised by yourself which was £18. When you changed the price of the speakers, the postage was still showing as £18. I can't be held responsible because you can't get your postage pricing right.
As for GDPR, I'm asking for a tracking number that is coming to my address for an item I've paid for. If anything you're breaking GDPR by refusing to give me information on goods I've bought and paid for. If I request information that you have for me, you have to give me it. As I've said previously, everything I've said is backed up by the listing and our messages between each other.
And please please please, proof read your messages before you click send. There are parts of your messages that are completely incoherent.
Him:
Because if you do not ill take you to court. They do not belong to you, thus I gave notice the the transaction is void after volleys of insults.You froze the funds. Mission 752 are not yours and you have no right to touch that package at all.
Me:
I've done nothing wrong. I've bought and paid for my speakers. You haven't delivered and got all crazy.
I won't be messaging again as you clearly aren't capable of seeing reason and I'll leave it for Ebay to sort out. It's actually uncomfortable dealing with you because of the way you're acting.
This will get sorted out eventually, you've just chosen to make life as difficult as possible for both of us.
Him:
Thats what they all say sunshine. You will never get past the confidence trick style deception committed when you claimed you'd paid a postal sum & used this to entitle yourself to make up defaming versions of reality by debunking how much it costs to shift 40 KG of massive parcel to Scotland for god sake.
Him:
Oh advice I see. Funds are frozen - I do not have them eBay does..No tricky nu interpretation could suggest these speakers any anyone else but mine. Return then untouched - do not unpack them and you get the refund right ? If you mess with me in any way you'll be in court. I hope bays the costs Matt I really do as if anything upsets me any further thats what will happen at you type of daily interest in a cast iron case of using deception. Leave it - you tried to screw me over it backfired. Get over it
Him:
I have every right to mention potential legal action for being abusive and defaming. Y are now taking about going through another persons belongings and retaining them when I can legally end the transaction and forbid that. You have a fool proof way to get all you many back, but want to take possession of items you are not legally entitled to do anymore..
Him: (the following morning)
I have had an email stating this has been rescheduled to Monday & could not give a monkeys how you alter reality this time. Just make sure its refused that day instead.
So that's it!