IFA 2013: Panasonic's first Ultra HD TV breaks the cover of HDMI 2.0

I wonder if Panny will be talking about just p60 so that the HDMI guys can do the launch of p120, rec2020 and 4:4:4 chroma. Time will tell.

 

That nice to see Panasonic jump in UHD TV

 

So, what are people's thoughts on this?

Personally, I think it's one thing to have HDMI 2 that may support rec2020 and 4:4:4, but the data rate required would be enormous. I wonder if it would be like Deep Colour all over again?

 

That's fine if the link can handle it. So far we have heard that HDMI v2.0 will be 18 Gb/s but I think It'll need to be more unless they decide to use compression.

I'm not worried about support for 8k as It's some time away (if ever) but 4k must be fully supported so that we can take advantage of all the things in the UHD standard.

EDIT: Not sure what you mean with deep colour, are you saying it hasn't been picked up?
The problem there was that the DVB and Blu-ray standards didn't support it, It'll be different with UHD.

 

With HEVC (H.265) just launching pre-alpha testing software, I hope this set will be firmware upgradable to take advantage of this new codec when it becomes mainstream over the next 12 months or so.

Also, does anybody know what panel this is going to be using? And if it will be offering full HD passive 3D like all the other 65" 4K panels being sold at the moment?

I guess we'll find out at 3pm today

 

great news for a future telly for me...but still lots of question marks about future upgrades, performance and compatibility issues. as always i will wait for a good while whilst they sort all that out. read a worrying review of a oled recently. with concerning ir and brightness pops issues. think they need 3 or 4 generations to sort all this out, just intime for 8k lol.

 

According to this the HDMI 2.0 specs have been announced

HDMI 2.0 announced with 4K, 60fps & 32 audio channels - FlatpanelsHD

 

I'm impressed that Andy has the wit & time for such searching.

 

I wasn't thinking about link speed, more about the storage capacity required, especially if we're to improve on 8 bit colour.

Yeh sorry, my point was that Deep Colour hasn't been picked up, but I didn't realise that it was down to Blu-ray standards not supporting it.

 

This really puts me in a great but crappy situation.... So close to pulling the trigger on a ZT 65in.....But I would like to jump on the 4k wagon.

 

I suspect 4K will literally take a decade to catch on ....look at Blu ray and 1080p....For goodness sake Sky boxes are only 720p and BBC HD is only 1080 interlaced ...I want this to work, but I suspect it will ultimately end up being a niche market.

 

Stick a Sky HD box into automatic output resolution and you'll find that too is 1080i / 50Hz on HD channels.

But yeah, I don't think 4K-UHD will catch on as quickly as Blu-ray / 1080i etc either

 

Yep but it is still only upscaled 720... and stick a 1080i signal through a 4k upscaling amp and you will get kid on 4k...its all relative....

4k will take years to catch on and I fear it will face a backlash worse than 3d...

 

or 1080p25

 

I am excited Panasonic have joined the 4K camp but there is a but, why is it that they have chosen LED not OLED? They are stopping Plasma manufacture in the near future to concentrate on OLED, being a Plasma fan this is a backwards step.

 

The OLED they've prototyped is a 56" model (same as Sony - LG & Samsung are 55"), this LED is 65"

They can get this LED out "now" (and attempt to catch up in terms of sales with the others) whereas OLED may be another year or 2, and will probably be more expensive.

 

Today's Sony IFA Press Conference should be interesting to watch, since they'll hopefully announce whether they will support 4K buyers with their very recent television purchases of XBR 4K models.

 

8mins to Panasonic starts their show at IFA

 

This is the info for it if that helps you Sony's X9 TVs launched with HDMI 1.4 that supports 4K resolution in up to 30 Hz. Sony says that X9 will soon support 4K in up to 60 Hz with the update to HDMI 2.0. The firmware update is naturally free

 

Thank you.

That is good news and nice to hear from Sony folk.

I am gonna' have a shot of chocolate milk to celebrate!

 

Welcome to the biggest AV forum on this side of the pond, Lee.

 

Hiya Geoff, and thanks for the welcome.

 

LCD? I prefer paper TV than this!

 

I am very interested in hearing more about Panasonic's first 4K TV and am a little peed off at how all the manufacturers are releasing them at once and never imagined it would be this quick considering I have just bought a ZT Plasma which has been considered the best 1080p TV that will be? Pricing for the 65" LED TV in UK I have read will be £5500, do not think it will be that for long considering how much Sony and Samsung have slashed theirs by to the disgust of some who bought at full price. Be more interested in the 58" that has been mentioned as 65" is too big for me.

 

I am hoping Value Electronics or CNET does a review soon so I can figure out ZT or WT600

 

Erm ... plasma ... LED, I'd take the ZT over a 4K LCD LED any day.

 

Happens all the time though doesn't it - you buy at the cutting edge but your purchase quickly diminishes in value. I bought the ipad 3 and 6 months later ipad 4 comes out. Phones, TV's, av amplifiers etc - all prone to the same quick price drop. The cheapest approach is to buy your tech goodies a year after launch and that way you get pretty current tech at best bang for buck - downside is that you'll never have the latest tech.

 

"RRP" to be £5,499 and stock should be arriving in the country week commencing 23rd September - then delivered out to dealers. Dealers will be able to demonstrate 4K-UHD via a supplied media box a la Sony 4K dealers.

EDIT - Model confirmed as TX-L65WT600B (not 650 as originally thought)