if i can't afford an XE-1 what else is there?

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  1. RobTi

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    As above been looking for a XE-1 but the prices are still too steep so what other models should i look at?
    Thanks
    Robert
     
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    What's XD-1?
     
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    XE1 i think:thumbsup:
     
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    Ahhh... could be :D

    EP35
    EP30
    EP10
    E1
    Xbox addon
    PC drives

    And a few more US machines.. :smashin:
     
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  5. RobTi

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    What more can i say yes it was the XE-1 player that i meant(edited now)
    Robert
     
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    :D just was going to post you can get a FUJI xD 1 GB Memory Card for £8:D
     
  7. RobTi

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    Have the xbox add on but would like a stand alone player and its hard to find the range from bottom to top from toshiba.
    So is the higher 35 the best one to go for?
    Thanks
    Robert
     
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    XE1 and EP35 both bitstream out :thumbsup: EP35 is next down from XE1.
     
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    If you can't afford XE1, get the EP35. Superb player. :thumbsup:
     
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    Actually the price difference between a 30 and a 35 is larger than in my humble opinion its worth. The 30 does just fine with internal decoding and the pq is the same.

    You will pay a pretty big premium just to have a display on your receiver regarding hd audio.

    It will not sound any better.

    So my opinion is the 30 models are a much better value.
     
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    Only thing is there is no way of getting DTS HD MA on the few discs that have it with the 30, atleast with the 35 you can send it bitstream to a reciever that can handle it. Also the 35 is slightly easier to make region free for DVD (only slightly easier though lol). Also I can't remember if the 30 decodes DTS HD High Res or not?
     
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    EP30 hi-def = internal PCM out: that includes DTS HD :)
     
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    Ta, it's been a while since I used a 30!
     
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    Also, my 35 was al lot more reliable than my 30 ever was, doesn't stand up yo my XE1 though :D
     
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    that's just a case of luck or bad luck - they are absolutely identical models in every respect except for the extra audio bells/jingles on the back of the EP-35 which doesn't merit the added price on the EP-35.

    video quality and playback related - they are the same and are either fine or extremely unreliable depending on whether you got one of the stable models or one of their dodgy models ( of which there seem to be thousands )
     
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    True look at the region free firmware for ep30 there is one option to flash it as an ep35! Then you get the extra audio features, but obviously can't add the extra audio out connections on the back! Unless you have an old amp you will not be upgrading there is no reason to spend extra on an ep35.
     
  17. RobTi

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    Okay is there anywhere to get a side by side comparison of the models or at least there specs?
    I am starting to get lost as to which is the best then second\third etc.
    Thanks
    Robert
     
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    The 35 mod for the 30 doesn't give you all the audio via bitstream, just adds DD+ and DTS HR, you still can not bitstream TrueHD or DTS MA. Great mod though for those who have the 30.

    With prices the way they are, if you were seriously considering the 35, for the sake of maybe £50 or so, i'd wait till you can afford an XE1. If the 35 is a lot more than you want to pay, pick up a dirt cheap 30.

    It all depends on how complete a player you want, the 30 can't do everything, the 35 just about can (no internal DTS MA decoding) and the XE1 can do everything the 35 can do, just a little bit better and is usually more reliable.
     
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    "the 30 can't do everything...."

    Not exactly sure what you are saying. I do not have an HD-DVD that the 30 doesn't internally decode and send the hd audio out to my receiver.

    Bitstreaming is not required.

    For blu-ray its the opposite. Having the ability to internally decode costs more and is consider higher end, not lower end.

    So the A30's internally decoding capability hardly falls into the "its impaired" category.

    I've played with the bitstream tweaks. They do work. No its not all audio codecs. However I ended up setting my A30 for internally decode as the default because of its capability to do so very well.
     
  20. Jase Winter

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    Ok, I think you are taking it the wrong way. What I mean is that the 35 can do both, decode internally and send as bitstream, the 30 can't out of the box, that's a fact. I'm not arguing as to which is better, bitstream or PCM, just stating the fact that some people prefer to have there expensive amps with onboard decoding do the work with the audio. So what do I mean by it can't do everything? Well for a start the lack of being able to get dts hd ma out of the player at all to me makes it a lesser player than the 35, then add the fact that the 30 has no analogue outputs either. Sure you will still get audio from every disc but not always the full bit rate (although only in the case of dts master audio which there are a few discs, the us pans labyrinth for a start).

    As for blu-ray players, my entry level Sony 350 has the same onboard decoding as the 30 but can also send all audio codecs via bitstream. The more you pay for a blu-ray player the more options you get, I.e internal decoding of dts master audio, analogue outputs and so on, similar really to the hd dvd players available.

    I'm not saying it's not a good player, I had one myself when they were first released and for the money you can get them for now they are excellent. Just not as complete as the higher up models.
     
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    So my simple view is still unless you want your amp to do the audio decoding just get an ep30 because its the same build and PQ as the ep35.
     
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    if your going to get a hi-def amp with decoders get the EP-35 for bitstream ..


    other than that the ep-30 is the same as the 35:thumbsup:
     
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    Or if you have an older non hdmi amp and want hd audio, it's the 35.
     
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    Forgot that one:D
     
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    no it isn't as the Ep30 doesn't have 5.1 Analogue Output which the EP35 does.
    Then you wouldn't need a "high def amp" to get lossless sound as you could just hook the Analogue Outputs of the EP35 to the inputs on your 'non hi def' amp (if they have 5.1 input) and you would get the lossless sound ;)
     
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    Above your post mate ;)
     
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    rojgelf what is your Budget?
     
  28. Jase Winter

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    I think you'll find it's RobTi thats after the advice mate, going by the amount of discs i've bought off rojgelf lately i'd say he already has a player :devil: :smashin:
     
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    namuk I've blown my budget already on 2 x ep30 (and 2 x 360 drives) and 124 discs, I think you meant to ask the OP. :)
     
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    :rolleyes:
     

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