I have a stange setup and I am currently waiting on my Netgear DG834G to arrive until then I currently have ICS and zonealarms setup. My problem is that I have moderate NATS does anyone else use this type of setup and has been able to get NATS to open. I have read various guides but have not seen anything to say that you can get open NATS using ICS. I can play games, see market place the only thing I have had problems with is that with some friends I cant connect and I get no voice. The following is set to open - Protocol: TCP 3074 Protocol: UDP 3074 Protocol: UDP 88. I have also checked the helpful guide at www.xboxlivetheguide.co.uk Thanks for any help.