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I Waited 3 Months For The 505,but Im Not Happy...why?

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by MANDELLS, Apr 8, 2005.

  1. MANDELLS

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    Hi there good people,i have managed to save up for my 505xde plus matching dvd920(250 gig hd model) but after connecting my sky box up i got to say that i was far from happy with the picture, i connected the sky box via scart to the dvd then from dvd to media box in hdmi cable,settled down to watch football but i had to turn it over before my friends came over to see the plasma that i had been ranting on about for the last 3 months.the picture was kind of pixelated is the only word that i can use and the people looked plastic!!!!

    I see a HDMIi demo at the ideal home exhibition and was so taken in i had sleepless nights just waiting to set it up and show off,but i could tell from the look on my mates faces they were thinking the same as me when they see my set up, but there to polite to say anything.

    Where am i going wrong? i do have a sky+ box will that be better?i think it has svideo out.

    Also i've got that new yamaha all in one long surround speaker(ysp or something),could you tell me the best way to connect this into my system
     
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    I'm sure more knowledgable people will be along soon, but have you set sky and the xde to RGB? may be a starting point for you ????
     
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    I'll go get the picture settings I use for RGB Sky+ connection... BRB
     
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    Okay, this is what I use on my 505XDE:

    Mode: Standard
    Contrast: 30
    Brightness: +7
    Color: -7
    Tint: 0
    Sharpness: 0

    [Advanced]
    Pure Cinema: ADV or Off
    Color Temperature: Mid-Low
    MPEG Noise Reduction: Low or Off
    Digital Noise Reduction: Low or Off
    CTI: On
    DRE: Off

    Make sure Sky+ is putting out an RGB signal and is set to medium contrast then see how that looks to you.
     
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    Many Thanks For That Folks,esp Kier
     
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    Hi

    You don't state if you are happy with DVD playback on the 505.

    IMHO Sky often broadcast crap PQ, low bitrates, soft pictures to hide blocking. Some of the movie channels are better but the sport suffers most due to fast moving pictures which require high bit rates.

    If you are happy DVD playback on the plasma then I think the problm lies with Sky broadcasts. Freeview is no better, some channels look very good i.e BBC2 on some programmes such as Around the World in 80 Treasures, some like the History channel are simply crap PQ.

    You have to bare in mind that the bigger the display and the higher resolution of the 505 simply shows all the inadequacies of our Standard Definition broadcasts.

    Roll on Hi-def

    Incidentally are analogue broadcasts any better?
     
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    I'm generally happy with the SKY PQ on my 434, just make sure the settings are correct as has been stated above - I had a similar problem in my early days. :rolleyes:
     
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    Not sure of your DVDr but from my experience the ones I've seen that have HD's in them that buffer the signal (so you can do live rewind etc) really soften the image up....I'd tend to go direct to media box in RGB from the scart of your SkyPlus and then use s-video from sky plus to the DVDr for archiving.

    Gordon
     
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    I'm not sure how this works, does the Scart-in on the DVD player passthru RGB from the Sky scart, or PAL only. Obviously it's worth connecting Sky directly to an RGB input on the media box and seeing if there is a big difference. If so, I'd guess the scart-in on the DVD player is not accepting/processing the RGB input properly.
     
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    Thanks guys for that info guys,i resolved the problem by going by borrowing my father in laws sky box as mine didnt give me the option of pal or rgb(mine was the really small pace box) and connecting direct to media box thus bypassing the dvd (thans scrowe)pic is a bit better but i dont think HD can come quick enough and imust ask freinds to let me know as to when there visiting so that i can quickly bung on a dvd,after splashing out all that wonga i cant handle any stick from them!!!!!!
     
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    The Pioneer displays do improve with usage, after 200 hours it'll look much better. Also switch off all the picture enhancement modes, and tinker with the settings until the faces look less plasticky.
     
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    SORRY TO SOUND DUMB,BUT WHAT DOES ISF MEAN? :confused: :confused:
     
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    Yeps get a full ISF after 200 hours and even invite the in-laws around.
     
  14. MANDELLS

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    Still Dont Know What It Means Though
     
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    A PAce Javelin.. a rare beast ideal for a touring caranvan (12v supply) but useless for a 50" plasma!!!

    ISF is the Image science Foundation a US based but global video display organisation who trian technicians to calibrate video displays (and most offer HAA audio calibrations as well) now the 2 main ISF calibrators in the UK Piers clerk and Gordon are both forum members offer the service UK wiode see here for more info:
    http://www.imagingscience.com/
    and to contact piers see www.homecinemaengineering.com and gordon is www.convergant-av.co.uk both charge somewhere in the region of £250 + expenses and will be able to get the best out of your plasma and advise on connection and cabling issues too.....
     
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    It's actually www.convergent-av.co.uk
    The ISF have nothing to do with audio calibration.
    The HAA are the group who promote audio calibration. (Home Acoustics Alliance)

    Gordon
     
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    I stand corrected (orthopaedic shoes you know)
     

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