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I never thought buying a TV would be this hard.......

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by Daipac, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. Daipac

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    I don't know if it just me but I feel I am going around in circles on which plasma I am going to purchase.............

    I have narrowed it down to 3 models :

    Panasonic PV500

    Hitachi PD7200

    Samsung PS42S5H

    I don't know whether I have been put off a little because of the LG RZ42PX11 that I had a few months ago but I am finding this decision really hard !

    It makes it harder because there is nowhere in my area that will be able to demo all 3 models at once with decent inputs.

    When do you stop thinking and bite the bullet ? This is driving me insane, trawling the forum everyday.

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    same here mate! but I am willing to wait till the dust settles a little and the stock levels improve, which i think will make life easier
     
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    The pressure is on m8......

    I think you know which one I would recommend. :thumbsup:

    230 hours - 100% happy :smashin:
     
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    I know biting said bullet is hard. The day I did it, I was inspired by the following reasons.

    Firstly, I was feeling a little down, so i fancied some retail therapy.

    Secondly, I fancied getting a Plasma in time to watch Wimbledon and Live8 on

    Thirdly, I had seen the short reviews of the 5H from Welsh111 and Barney on this forum

    Fourthly, the retailer i contacted about the 5H said he had only two left and promised next day delivery (in time for Live8).

    Fifthly, the price was the cheapest I had seen, and a lot cheaper than the 500.

    Anyway, I went for the 5H and the rest is history as they say.
     
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    HAve yopu tried Quinns in lansamlet?
     
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    HD, I have indeed tried Quinns, well, the Store@Panasonic part of Quinns anyway. That is where I first saw the PV500 running the HD demo material.

    Last time I was in there, they didn't have the PD7200 but I will have to go back in and have a look, see what they can do for me.

    They have a lot of TVs on display, most on a split Sky+ signal. They also have the Pioneer running the Euro1080 channel.

    Thanks for suggestion, I will make a decision soon ! I am determined to do it !

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    I'm in the same boat over the same 3. In the end, money will play a major role, and not matter how hard you look the samsung is always cheaper cause it's £500 cheaper to start with. That leaves me a few quid for a new DVD player, but without a 'professional' review, i hate to 'bite the bullet'. I have seen the PV-500 for just under 2k with wall bracket and a pana DVD recorder. The 7200 with free portable for 2k, and the Samsung for 1500 with... well nothing but it's 1500 for HD ready :)
    Theres more factors though, really want a screen only, but samsung speakers dont come off. Prefer black so, hitachi isn't quite right, This leaves the Pana, which isn't as thin as the others and when wall mounted will probably be half way into the room! Add to all this my missus nagging me to get something yesterday and wanting the slightly to big (IMO) 50" samsung DLP. I'm at the point of walking away! I can live with my 28" CRT still.... can't i?!?

    Oh, the headaches..... :suicide:
     
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    DAi go to the SHEd on the industrial Park mate should be better choice get them to hook 1080i up to everything you are considering
     
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    The Shed ?
     
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    A big shed on lansamlet business park with all the car dealers etc
     
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    I was in this dilema, and maybe still am, kinda opting for a DLP as well, due to big sizes.

    The Samsung is a great deal, a good rpice as well, leaves money to spend on a DVD System or whatever, or money for PS3/Xbox360.

    I have seen the PV500, and Hitachi in action so far, not the Samsung yet. Hitachi and Samsung win with looks, they look pretty damn nice. In PQ, you really need to sit down and check them out and see what you like. Would you mind spending £500ish for slightly better PQ?
     
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    I am lost.................

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    i'd spend 500 quid extra, if i felt i was getting 500 quid more Pq. Somehow, not sure i would feel that way though. DLP does seem much better vfm size wise.
     
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    We've all been there mate!
    I've had enough and have ordered a Panny 42"PV500 as there is nothing that beats it at the moment IMHO especially with SKY (except the 50 series) for the price v PQ. DLP looks great but the rainbow effect and viewing angle issues put me off.

    It did my head in totally. Now the wait for a pedestal version is killing me as the Panny shop I ordered from said it could be a couple of weeks before stocks are out. If id wanted the cabinet version I'd have by now.
     
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    Your demo problem, I sympathise. The prob for us retailers is that the margins on the TV ones are so tight, and chances of any add on services so slight, it's not actually economic to keep them and demo them, that's just 1 let alone 3 of them. Sadly we have to demo products that assist with keeping bread in the bin, and I for 1 cannot do it with any of these 3. You are stuck with Currys.
     
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    I am in the exact same situation, same three TVs and none the wiser. I am waiting for proper reviews of the pana and the samsung then I spend my money.
    The wait is hard though going to these forums everyday and wanting to get rid of the old 32" 50Hz sony.
     
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    I find it strange that reviews of the Panny 500 series are so thin on the ground and the ones that there are are hardly informative. Still viewing a well set up one convinced me.
    Comments by a couple of the more informed members of the forum have put me off Alis panels. Then I looked into Hitachis dead pixel policy and that was the clincher.

    As for the Sammy I cant see it being better than the Panny and I got a good deal from my local Panasonic shop with a 5 year warranty which was a major consideration for me along with the fact they let me view the set for ages' and I did not want to penny pinch on service when spending over £2k.
     
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    Agree completely. Found the forums about a month or so ago and have spent the time reading, reading and reading. I now know things about TV's that I didn't know would matter, but now they do! The bizzarest bit for me is that I have never owned a TV as just either used parents when there or the GF's. Now however I've bought my new flat and moving in at the end of August. So shopping list currently reads as Buy: 1. Flat, 2. Bed, 3. Couch, 4. Plasma.

    Now I could just go and buy a cheap TV from Asda's or wherever but I would know I'd spent £200 on something that realistically I'm going to replace in about 3 months and so would be consigned to the 2nd bedroom. Especially since I'm a tech fan, with about 3 computers, a Sony Surround A/V amp that I bough about 10 years ago, with Marantz CD, Mission center and rears and Mordaunt Short front in my bedroom. At the end of the day I'm not going to be satisfied with a nasty looking grudig thing to play DVD's on.

    Normally I just browse the web and pick up the most praised 'thing' from the reviews and I'm sorted. Now I've learnt that you have to consider way more things e.g. JS boxes, Quallity Cables, whether its component or S-Video and a whole heap of other stuff.

    Good fun though, as it reminds me of me about 15 years ago when I was first looking into PC's for my Dad to buy at the time (we then were still using my 48K Speccy and his Amstrad PCW). I remember sitting going through magazine after magazine, looking at whether we wanted to get a 16 MHz 486 SX or DX and whether 4MB or 8MB ram, with a 60 MB harddisc. Great fun!

    At the end of the day the forums here have (and probably will continue to) keep me entertained, educated in all the other cool toys that at some point in the near future I will be puchasing.

    Until then bring on the PQ debates, the pics of how things were fitted, what cables give you better bang for buck and I'll keep reading trying to fit as much if it in, and hopefully will finally get round to buying one of those picture tube things.

    Cheers! :thumbsup:
     
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    And to top it all......
    In 2 months time, pioneer are bringing there 6 series screens out and they could well be cheaper than the last lot.
    Seems like every time someone brings a newer version out, it is better than the last and also cheaper, so the next gen pioneers could be in the same price bracket as the pv-500/ 7200.... :eek: :eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :suicide:
     
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    if the pios arent in that bracket Pio will be dead in the water (pioneer is a small company compared to MAtsush*ta (panasonic) who are dwarfed by Hitachi in terms of global revenues (NYSE figures)
     
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    You need to remember that Hitachi are a true Japanese 'do it all' company, they even make mechanical diggers FGS!! So I don't know how much of the dwarfing is done by Hitachi plasma division, but not all of it. Whereas Pioneer are an AV company, and that's it. Matsu***** are electrical only, but of course the infamous vacuum cleaner division is some of that.
     
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    oh i agree Pioneer are a specialist AV company Matsush*ta make aircon units phones (very big in phones currently killing seimens market share and alot UK made) etc etc the pooint is pioneer as a corporation wilel rely more on a new domestic PDP for continued devlopment funds etc than MAtsush*ta or Hitachi. However in the PDP market i think Matsush*ta are the largest (at least capacity wise) then i am not sure where the Koreans fit in but pioneers acquisition of NEC PDP has bosted their capacity substanially I do love the Global PDP market stuff
     
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    Forget LG! I can't emphasis that enough......

    I got talked into buying an LG when I upgraded to a plasma......got it home with a bit of help, set it up, put a film on and felt my big smile drop to a frown. What a utter pile of tosh :mad: Interference, solarisation, snow....the list went on.

    After a few days troubleshooting it (from changing settings to replacing the component board etc) I took it back and demanded the Panasonic that I originally got talked out of buying and have been a VERY happy plasma owner since :)
     
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    I was in the same boat as you for ages and totally agree with your comments about how hard it is to do an A/B demo with good source and good set up. When I bought a hifi (for a similar amount of money as my plasma screen) then I had my own demo room for a couple of hours, took along my CDs and tried out all the different bits of kit.

    I'm not sure if Hifi is different or if it's just that in this internet age margins have come down and retailers just can't afford to offer this sort of service and compete with the box-shifters.

    In the end I paid out over £4k for a screen that I'd never seen based pretty much on what I read on this forum (plus a few phone conversations with the retailer). No regrets, but a slightly uncomfortable decision given the amount of money.
     
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    And the screen you bought isnt supposed to "e"tailed at all only sold through CI installers and dealers who can demo it............
     
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    I believe the retailer I bought it from was a CI installer/dealer who could have demo'd it but they weren't especially local to me and I preferred to go with somebody who I trusted rather than somebody who was local. I certainly couldn't find a local dealer who had all the panels that I wanted to test with the certainty that the source was consistent and the panels were set up right.
     
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    I can assure you I did my homework but that was reading reviews, reading this forum and talking to a few people who had one. The one thing I didn't do was actually see the screen up and running for all the reasons that I mentioned above. I did go and see various screens in various retailers but the only conclusion that I came to was that all I was looking at was the quality of the signal distribution system and the amount of time/expertise that the retailer had put in to setting up the screen.
     
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    TVs seem to be a product area where there is a huge gap between the appearance of a product in the shops and the reviews of that product. In fact there seems to be very few reviews of most products, leaving potential customers searching round in circles or visiting sites such as this. A lot of products never seem to get reviewed at all. This might have been OK when we were talking about spending no more than a few hundred quid. Now we are talking about spending thousands on a plasma, its really not a good situation.
     
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    As a manufacturer, you are kind of damned if you do and damned if you don't, on providing a review screen. They are a bit of a lottery to say the least. The last one I saw of a PW7 was not very complimentary, little better than the tiny in fact, which we all know is not the case. Maybe they didn't understand it? In spite of these being the 'official' forums of one of the best known mags, nobody I have ever seen post here was a journalist for them, leading me to believe they are not actually enthusiasts, but merely earning a living, I guess like most people do.
     

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