Question I just don't know what to buy......but it has a to be from Curry's!

Discussion in 'What Is The Best TV For You?' started by SpikeyC, Apr 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM.

  1. SpikeyC

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    So a little background first........
    Having always only ever bought either Sony or Panasonic it was time around this time last year to replace our old Plasma TV.
    Having researched as much as I could we opted to buy a LG55SJ810V.AEK from Curry's where my wife gets a small discount. It was great at first but having noticed a variation in colour and contrast across the screen LG sent their engineer who promptly replaced the panel. All was well for a few days and then exactly the same thing happened and LG have now classed the TV 'beyond economical repair' and I have until May 22nd to take it back to Currys for a credit against any other TV that they stock.......the question is which one?!
    I'd sort of decided a few weeks ago on the LG OLED55B8PLA 55" Smart 4K Ultra HD HDR OLED TV and have posted before on here asking about it but the more I read about image retention and burn in and with the previous experience with my first ownership of an LG TV, I'm now not so sure.
    At the time of buying a year ago the OLED TV's (and QLEDS) were too far over budget but I'm happy now to add a bit to the pot and spend around £1000 on a 55" but just don't know what would be best!
    At the moment we are struggling with a poor content option from NOWTV but are trying to go over to SKY Q in a couple of weeks if they are able to install in what is a very modern house built in a factory and made of wood with Siberian Larch timber cladding (don't ask!).......they have been once and gone away without fitting a dish and a 'specialist team' will apparently be coming again to try and install in around 10 days (they apparently don't like drilling into wood!)
    We just watch TV (Amazon Prime, Netflix and general free to air programs), no gaming and we are very careful with our stuff! Having said that, we are expecting family to come and stay with us for a few months who tend to have the TV on during the day, kids TV mainly and they often pause the content while doing other things which is something we never do.........
    So I guess the $64,000 question is: if you had around £1000 to spend in Currys what TV would you buy as I just can't decide what is best at that price point. I'd like to add about £300 on top of the TV and get a reasonable soundbar as well but my little brain can't contemplate having to think about that as well.......it's all so confusing for someone in their 60's who struggles with technology!
    For those that have read this far, apologies for the waffle and thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.
     
  2. Angelo M

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    If its not possible to teach them not to keep the TV on whilst doing other tasks then you'll have to go for an LCD.

    Which LCD you go for depends firstly on whether you need wide viewing angles or not.

    Then it depends how big you want the TV to be and how much you care about HDR performance.

    Sticking only to 55" the Sony XF9005 mentioned is a good option if you don't want wide viewing angles and you want decent HDR for example, but could be seen as overspending if you do not use much, or don't plan to use any HDR material.
     
  4. SpikeyC

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    Thanks very much to the both of you.......
    I could certainly ban them from freezing content on the screen explaining the reasons why which would bring me back to the 55" LG OLED B8 which would you consider is a 'better' TV than the Sony XF9005??
    We will be sitting directly in front of the TV for most off the time and hope to be able to watch as much HD content as our TV provider can give us. 55" is what we have at the moment which seems about the right size although if money was no object we could fit a 65" in!
    We've just been for another wander around our local Curry's store and my wife was taken with the Samsung QLED Q7 which is priced at £999 (we looked at the display showing the QLED v a standard LCD Samsung which showed quite a difference) and also looked at the Samsung Q6 65" which is also at £999..............
    Would I be right in saying that these Samsung QLED models aren't as good as either the Sony (mentioned above) or the LG B8 (if screen burn won't be a problem).
    Just wish I hadn't had a bad first experience with our LG TV, which is affecting my judgement somewhat.
    Who'd have thought that buying a nice TV could cause so much indecision?!
     
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    I'll try my best to address your queries:
    The LG OLED by far in my opinon. No TV is perfect but the LG will give you gains in picture quality in all areas. The gains from OLED tech are fantastic and you get a boost not just when you watch HDR but it will make SDR content "pop" more than an LCD. Especially if you view with the lights off.
    The bigger the better obviously, especially paired with a good source. If you have an average viewing distance from a 55" TV you may not even notice much of a difference from Sky Q with UHD content to HD content. The problem though as you have said is you can't get a higher end model without breaking the bank.

    But at the same time, some people will opt to go for a lesser model but make it bigger, this is a good idea if you do not use much HDR as cheaper LCDs than the Sony XF9005 are still very respectable with content that isn't available in HDR yet and by going larger you get more immersion and detail from a higher quality source.

    I tried my best to explain the difference between bigger lower end models and smaller, higher end models here: Size matters
    She won't be the first one who has spotted the Samsung QLEDs and thought they look excellent. The demo material on them in the shops really does make them look amazing. But its exactly that; demo material! The Q7FN does some things better than the Sony XF9005 but its lack of good local dimming really lets it down when you watch HDR compared to the Sony. Never judge a TV in a shop unless you are able to bring your own content and watch it in a demo room. On the shop floor the TVs make for unfair comparison with the store lighting being very different and the TVs all set up in the shop demo "VIVID" picture modes to try and grasp away the gazes from one TV to another. I've known people buy TVs based on what they see in a show room and come away with a far inferior TV than the one they were originally set on!
    That is right until you reach the Samsung Q8DN or Q9FN which both, like the Sony XF9005 have respectable local dimming. Even then, they still like the Sony do not offer large gains in all areas like an OLED will.
    You could get an OLED from a different manufacturer but years of buying AV equipment in general (not just TVs) is that the manufacturers are all as bad as eachother and you should place any concerns about after market care solely on the retailer and not the manufacturer. In other words, buy from a store that you know has a good reputation, customer service and warranty such as Richer or John Lewis.

    2018-2019 OLED Comparison
     
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    Out of your options I would go LG b8 oled first, then the Sony xf9005 ,I wouldn't touch a Samsung unless as stated above you are getting a FALD one like the Q9FN.
     
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    Now that's what I call a comprehensive reply @Dodgexander ......you are very kind to spend so much time and trouble to answer my questions, it's much appreciated.
    I think as @furryhobnob has also mentioned, I need to steer my wife away from the lower spec'd QLEDS and look again at OLED or the Sony XF9005.
    Many thanks!
     
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    You are so polite, Spikey, you are showing your age!;)

    In a straight battle between OLED and LED there's absolutely no comparison - OLED wins every time for everyday viewing.

    My boss bought a Sony XE9005 last year and my "ancient" Panasonic CZ952 OLED (2016!) wipes the floor with it. Everything is better: motion, black levels, colour accuracy, contrast levels, viewing angles, even SD and I've got a 65" and him a 55".

    However, I can pause his TV and walk out of the room, but I would never dream of doing that with mine. You do have to treat them differently and there is panel variation (known colloquially as the panel lottery). I've not had any image retention on mine, but some members report that they have on TV's that were bought years after mine.

    The biggest problem I can see is that Curry's have a terrible reputation for after sales service and that, currently, image retention or burn in are not seen as an inherent defect with the technology and the burden of proof is subsequently shifted to the consumer.

    Having said that, the panel lottery does also apply to LED and there can be issues with that technology too, so it's all just a guessing game.

    For your budget and needs, I'd go with the LG OLED every time, but the Sony LED is probably the next best alternative. And I'd also recommend you add a soundbar to whichever TV you ultimately decide to buy as flatscreen sound is just terrible - thin and weedy. £300 is a good budget, but maybe Curry's might give you a reduction if you buy one as a package with the TV?

    Read the reviews on here and pick one that Curry's actually stock, then haggle! I would! If you don't ask, you don't get.

    Good luck!:)
     
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    Well another lovely reply, thanks @Derek S-H, very kind of you...... my dear old mum must have brought me up correctly, always treat everyone with respect, especially when you're asking for their knowledge on a subject that you don't know enough about!!
    I wish I'd have found this forum before originally purchasing from Curry's but I'm stuck with them now so onwards and upwards!
    Thanks again for your message and advice.
     
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    I would avoid both OLED & LG go for a Sony.
     
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    Thats a really helpful statement
     
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    It certainly adds to the general confusion I'm feeling!

    I guess it was generally a silly question to ask on my part, everyone has their own idea on what is best or most suitable. People's expectations and needs are different, I guess I just wanted to try and avoid buying a 'lemon' and regretting it. I'd have been perfectly happy keeping my 1 year old LG LCD if it hadn't gone wrong twice and now the newer more expensive OLED technology is closer to my budget it seemed worth exploring but I've read enough to realise it might not be for everyone's viewing habits.
    My wife actually would prefer us to go for a 65" model (she says she's put up with small all her married life;)) so it gets even more confusing although of course a big 'un would rule out OLED on cost alone.
    Curry's have the Samsung Q6 65" down to £999 at the moment............I'd like to think that was better than a standard 65" LCD but I'm sure I can guess what the answer to that would be.
    A better quality 55" or a lesser quality 65"............Ain't life a bitch:)
     
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    I think size is a pretty important factor. Buy the biggest TV you can reasonably fit in the space/are comfortable with decor wise i reckon. Especially if you sit far away. I'm sure the Q6 is a great TV, we are all perfectionists here i guess, 99% of people will probably buy a Q6 and love it without a second thought.
     
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    The Q6FN is a no brainer at that price if you want a 65" LCD and don't need wide viewing angles. Its a decent starter TV for HDR.

    Size IS important and my guess is you probably view at an average distance from the TV so having a bigger TV will likely make HD look better too, not just UHD.
     
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    Well we sit around 11-12ft away from our TV, directly in front of it............if we have family over they would have to sit to the side and closer but for 90% of the time it's just the 2 of us.
    Because of the strange build construction of this property wall mounting isn't really an option so it sits on a 1500mm wide tv unit, I just wonder if a 65" set would dominate the whole room, filling the TV unit? (see pic below). Must make a decision, must make a decision...............
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    Just ignore me now everyone, I've lost the plot big time...
     
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    Love that wood burner thing and also the coffee table
     
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    Its something that comes up often, there is no one answer as to whether it dominates or not, that really depends on your own personal opinion.

    There are people here who have 100"+ projector screens in their living rooms and others that don't want more than a 32". It just depends.

    From a technical standpoint 10-12ft away and even HD will look better, really that is too far to get any benefit at all for UHD so its definitely better to go bigger at that distance. See: TV Viewing Distance Guide

    If you have some spare paper or cardboard you could create a mock-up the same size as a 65" TV and see what you think.

    This also may be useful: Will the TV fit on your wall? - FlatpanelsHD
     

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