I hate Projectors ! a LONG Rant Sorry

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  1. ukfatboy

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    Once upon a time a silly man ( me ) was chilling out watching his favourite porn :blush: sorry film , on his plasma :thumbsup: . He loves his home theatre and has loved his hifi since his first arcam setup some 20 years ago !

    He makes a serious mistake , he decides that the picture is not big enough.
    Does a bit of research and decides its time for a projector. So he works out his finances, sells his plasma, sells his tag dvdflr , screws work for expenses and sets about getting a projector.

    Sensibly reads the forums , reads the magazines so hes got a few ideas ! Off he trots to his local dealer ( whos had 10K's off him over the last decade or so ! ) and whats the first projector they show him ?

    Sim2 500 extra 3 chip £25k thingy. How having watched mad johnny depp pirateing his way around and then hidef gladiator hes convinced that these projector things work . :D :D

    Despite spending an 1hr 30 mins with the sim he politely declines the nice mans invitation to buy one as he thought it was a tad expensive .

    Ok says the nice man in shop lets look for a cheaper option. So he sees sim2 domino 20, 30 and 300 extra plus a runco. between 3 - 8 K. he likes the 6k runco the best but does not get it cause it does not do high def .

    Back to the forum he comes and clocks as possible themescene H77, benq8700 and infocus 7205 . decides that its def going to be dlp and H2+ chipset.

    Drives a long way to st neots and sees themescene , smearing on component pal source makes it a none goer. Cannot find anywhere the others to view but reads reviews etc.

    Then he discovers that it does not matter who makes the projector or what it is called as there all inbred clones anyway :suicide:

    Decides that the benq is the best bang for buck even though its ment to be quite loud but you got to do it SOMETIME.

    Hard work done he thinks !! :clown: :beer:

    BO***CKS is it .

    No one told him about screens , types , gain , throw distances , dvi leads, hdmi leads, dvi to hdmi convertors :oops:

    To cut a long story short I've had to watch the olympics on a 18" telly and I'm no nearer to having a beeing projector. Whats worse it the Belgium Grand prix at the weekend from Spa which is the best circuit in the world and I'm still going to watch on a crap telly :mad:

    So can somebody answer these questions

    Please !!!

    when are themescene H77 PRODUCTION models coming ?

    Does anybody have a BENQ 8700 ? or know where I can see one I'm in Birmingham .

    How much should I have to pay for a fixed 5/6/7 screen ?

    I know you Have to come off the fence at some point but is there any good reason to wait for another 3 months for some thing special ????

    God help me I'm going to buy a dlp telly if I cannot sort this soon.

    Thank You for reading this rant I hope the below cheers you up

    Shameless cut 'n' paste from elsewhere, but so so true...

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  2. hornydragon

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    OK i say try for a demo of a mitsubishi HC2000 and Marantz 12S3, Spend £1200 on a 7ft screen, demo some normal stuff, DVD and Sky etc Hidef makes everything look good! Demo a CRT PJ and perhaps consider buying another 42" Plasma and a cheaper PJ and screen and run dual displays
     
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    Well, I have been a totally happy projector user for 4 years now. The bulb is close to its quoted life and I'm researching a replacement bulb - not a replacement projector (although, to be fair, the latter has crossed my mind - but, no, it'll wait till the next time, in another 4 years or so).

    4 and a bit years ago I paid just over GBP4000 for a Sony VW10HT. If I was faced with the need, throgh total failure, to replace it now, I'd probably buy a VW12 (available for about GBP2.5k), so pleased with it have I been.
     
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    So what's the question?????? :D

    Oh yeah. If it was easy it wouldn't be half as much fun. Hope you get sorted soon. It is worth it. :hiya:
     
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    Seconded on the HC2000 suggestion. I've seen pre-production and it was very good, hoping to have a final production demo unit down here next week or week after at latest for a few days to test with scalers etc, welcome to come down and have a look if you are based in the South East.

    Vutec Fixed Frame Screens start at £850 for the Vu Easy and £1700 for the excellent Vision XWF for your size.

    HD2+ prices have hit as low as they will go for a while I reckon, there is likely to be a new TI DLP chip around the corner with 1920 x 1080 resolution. But if and when this does make it to these shores it will be prohibitively expensive!! US CEDIA Expo is next month if there is gonna be any sort of launch this year...

    Don't go buying a DLP TV!!! Nothing compares to watching an 8ft wide screen :) Take note of the idea to buy a PJ and plasma though, nothing worse than trying to watch a projector on a sunny day (if we ever get one!).
     
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    Hi Liam

    I am down your way w/c 6th September (week after next) and would be delighted to bring my S3 down for a mini shootout with the HC2000. I have already had an HC2000 (curteousy of Dave) here twice for demo and thought it was very good although not as natural and filmic.
     
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    You've got PM!!
     
  8. Wolvreen

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    Liam, you have a PM, a quick question.
     
  9. ntslik

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    Sorry have to disagree with Liam above, went to Themescene on Wednesday and saw the new 65" DLP RP TV, and oh my god WOW...........saw it with 1080i input and oh I could not take my eyes of it, you can not believe a picture could be so sharp, i have not seen a more stunning picture then that, it's a beautifully designed set as well, using Piano black finish and nice use of silver and black trims make the TV look absolutely stunning, when it was mentioned to me I really didn't give a second thought, now i've seen it, sign me up, I'm getting one!!
     
  10. NonPayingMember

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    Fair cop mate, not knocking the quality (we've just taken on Optoma and Sagem RPTVs for exactly the same reason!)......

    But I would still prefer an 8ft (or bigger) screen :D :D :D :D
     
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    Oh no, have to agree that often bigger is better, as all the girls say :D
    but i think this RP TV is a cracking buy for the individual who wants a whacking great TV
     

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