Discussion in 'Motoring' started by mikeburns, Feb 28, 2014.
when there are so many nice things in the world -
That is lovely! Very nice.
Why not sell the wife and children
eBay removed the listing
There's a joke there somewhere.
Very nice looking car but it has a tough act to follow, looks wise. Think i'd still take a Gallardo LP560-4. Staggeringly beautiful.
Nice, what about the new McLaren 650S? Not sure where it fits though as it's between the MP4-12C and the new P1.
BUT, I have to say for that new Lambo is the utter mutts nuts dogs danglies awesomeness
The rear end is somehow very classic. Does look wide though?
Aventador for me. Or not, as I'm poor too!
Let's club together, buy one and share it....like a thoroughbred horse
I think the Gallardo, while once a great looking car, is now beginning to look very dated, particularly in comparison to the Huracan.
I'll take one in Verde Mantis, please...
haha, well if sidicks gives us his S1 and GT3 money (if it hasn't caught fire!), I'll sell me ST, we may be halfway ish there? I guess we could all then just sell a kidney?
I've got a pair of Mercedes-Benz that I'll donate........just need Force's Ferrari and dejongj's GL and we'll barely scratch the surface
At this rate we'll be looking at a 918 or P1 soon!
I think the 650S is the replacement for the MP4-12C, I may be wrong though.
Always dreamed of owning a Lambo. Going back to the Countache and Diablo. Unfortunately, poor life choices and basically not being a genius has left me with needing a lottery win to realise my dream. Lol
Yeah, I thought that, but it can't be as the 12C is only what, a year and a half old. And the way it seems to be placed is a middle model car. I guess you have to drive them to see the differences, I guess it's a bit tricky to separate your car range when the base one already does 200 and 0 to 60 in 3 seconds ish!
Surprisingly, the 12C has been in production for nearly 3 years now.
They need to sort out their naming convention, MP4-12C became the 12C, then they added the P1 and now the 650S, non of the names tie together or appears to make any sense, to me anyway.
The 650s is designed to give them a 3 car line up, sitting between the 12c and the P1. It is not intended as a 12C replacement.
For me the 12C showed that McLaren fundamentally didn’t understand the sports cars market, they tried and succeeded in producing a technically superb vehicle, but missed the whole point that these cars are mainly toys, and as such their primary function is about having fun and putting a smile on the drivers face. All the talk of the 650S having more emotion is about addressing that initial failure.
Absolutely, pretty much every single 12C review was the same, car quick as **** but soulless and dull, the computer was FAR too controlling and you felt removed from the driving. They let the tech make the car, instead of hiding the tech and letting it compliment the driver.
Let's hope the 650S is better.
how much time have you spent driving the 12C...?
I think you are vastly exaggerating exactly what the reviews said!
No I'm not, Clarkson didn't like it and it threw Tiff Neadle off the track. And they drive and test cars for a living.
Fifth Gear McLaren MP4 12c vs Ferrari 458 ItaliaWatch this video on YouTube
It's nice to see that they are now starting to make some money -
Mac In Profit
Clarkson is a joker, purely to be controversial.
What did Tiff Needell say as part of ECOTY 2012....?
...and then there's CAR article from 2011
McLaren MP4-12C supercar (2011) CAR review | Road Testing Reviews | Car Magazine Online
I've no idea, but in the video I posted he reflected what I said, post a link to what he said if you feel it contradicted his review on Fifth Gear.
And yet all you can provide is one review by Tiff, which is directly contradicted by his later review for ECOTY 2012. I've also provided a link to the CAR article which also provides a glowing report.
I''m quite happy to accept that some reviews might have criticised some aspects of the car, but in the main they were nitpicking - why it got 4 stars rather than 5.
Your claims are demonstrably incorrect.
I am demonstrably incorrect yet I posted a video backing up what I said, you come here and claim Tiff stated something totally different yet don't post a link to back that fact up and claim I am demonstrably incorrect...
So before I trawl the net for all the 12-C reviews, why don't you backup your statement with a link?
One link does not support a claim made about "pretty much every single review"...
Does not what? Come on, you have stated that Tiff Needle contradicted his review of the 12C on Fifth Gear in another review, back it up or withdraw the claim.
Join EVO then you can read for yourself!!
I certainly havent driven one ,
But if i won the lottery it wouldnt even be on the list.
The 12c just looks ..meh
Sure its fast..but there are cheaper and faster track cars
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