Right ok. There are other possible combinations but I would be really tempted to get your old two set up as well. Bit of a pain but give it a go if you can find the enthusiasm.Yes I have tried those apart the right to the TV as that's where the tower speaker sits:
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No. Tried every direction in my system and it made almost no difference at all.
Maybe but it would just look wrong, also I lost location 1 this morning actually:
They are currently set to 120HzWhat are your main L/R speakers set to, I'm guessing 80hz?
Seems to make quite a different at the higher frequenciesWill depend on the room though. Changing the orientation of my subs made a fair bit of difference (especially from 60hz upwards).
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That's the subs firing up and down the room vs both at the nearest side walls vs both firing across the room at the opposite walls. All just rotated in the same positions.
Hmm I am rather vary of having a house curve as doing some reading a house curve is needed at lower listening volumes due to how brain works. But once you go to -15dB and move toward 0dB reference such house curve is not needed and just blows out the bass. Plus it would boost the low down bass compared to 50Hz-65Hz range that gives that chest slam if i'm correct?Apart from the 70-80Hz null that sub FR looks actually looks pretty good to me.
I think my approach would be to use your Mini-DSP to add a 10dB house curve (which you should want anyway) and run a 80Hz crossover. You're shooting for the black line.
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The -8dB dip in the 70-80-Hz dip is ironed out by the HC and simply saves the MiniDSP a job i.e. it doesn't need to pull back the gain in that area. To the extent there's anything left of it you could try and fill it in with the mains via positioning/EQ.
A steeper House Curve is beneficial at lower listening levels but they're still desirable higher up as there' still a huge gap.Hmm I am rather vary of having a house curve as doing some reading a house curve is needed at lower listening volumes due to how brain works. But once you go to -15dB and move toward 0dB reference such house curve is not needed and just blows out the bass. Plus it would boost the low down bass compared to 50Hz-65Hz range that gives that chest slam if i'm correct?
Hmmmmmm that's interesting, I might have a look tomorrow!A steeper House Curve is beneficial at lower listening levels but they're still desirable higher up as there' still a huge gap.
The equal loudness curve shows how about 108dB at 80Hz sounds as loud as 128dB at 20Hz. If 80Hz was the baseline calibration point that's like listening at -7dB given 115dB peaks.
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You don't have to be as aggressive as 10dB but any size HC would help flatten out that dip. I'd certainly give it a try.
It looks like that, but the ears of the listener are at least 30cm above the top of the subsJust an observation, your sofas are very low aren't they? Your MLP must be barely higher than the top of the subs!
Well 120Hz ave the best response with the subs to main time alignment. I was using this video as a guide:I'd definitely look at bringing your L/C/R down to 80hz, centre down to 100 maybe but 120 is too high imo. Try it with the lower cross over settings and feed back what you think?
Well for example 60Hz crossover my R speaker is as loud at 41Hz - 48Hz as it is a 85Hz. For some reason my denon is really not doing anything those massive peaks.I'd say your losing far too much content with your mains at 120. LFE is a separate channel and does indeed stop at 120 which is why the sub is set that high, you will still get low frequencies sent to the LCR so crossing over at 120 means you lose a lot even if your slope is a shallow 6db, most at 12db though so a steeper drop off. I cross my mains at 60hz
Will try thanksTry DEQ and RLO and do some REW sweeps with sub and centre, it’s a live house curve works very well if set up properly
Hmmm I am not sure If it got the subs aligned properly to the mains and if they are out phase causing any issues for the bass frequenciesYour Denon has Audyssey XT which isn't anywhere near as effective as XT32 on the models further up the range unfortunately.