I could fix F1 and it wouldn't cost a penny...

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  1. Chadford

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    ...i.e make it more interesting...

    See what you think, It could be a silly idea?

    Saturday (alternative to qualifying):
    Say have three 30min sessions. All cars take part in all sessions.
    Point are awarded e.g. 5,4,3,2,1 for the fastest drivers.
    So, this makes it better for the fans as champion points are awarded (i.e.
    there's more at stake than a grid position).
    There's (probably) more incentive for cars to go on track rather than sit
    in the garage. Less competitive teams would have a better
    chance at picking up points (probably with inclement weather conditions).


    Sunday:
    Computer generated random grid (yikes!).
    Think about it, consider a horse race were the riders lined up in a queue,
    fastest at the front slowest at the back - ridiculous, yet we do this with F1.
    OK. We can't start a F1 race with cars side by side (that would make for
    a very expensive turn one).
    A random grid would make for a squillion% more action. Top teams would
    really have to work to win. Less competitive teams would come into play more
    as part of the action. A much better spectacle all around.


    Oh, and get rid of Blue flags.

    :)
     
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    proper in-season testing

    or at least testing after Bahrain, Spain , Austria & Silverstone.
    Chance for the slower cars/engines to develop,
    Close enough to the factories for the shipping of updates to be sent
    Chance of differing weather so wet testing can be done if the opportunity arises

    I might have said to also give the chance for younger drivers to get experience. But when a 17yo can climb into a F1 car and be competitive, they don't need it. Which is a whole different thread
     
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    Sack Bernie.
     
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    If any sort of reverse/random grid (or success ballast) is introduced I'll stop watching instantly. F1 is meant to be the pinnacle of the sport and it therefore needs to be about the best driver/car combination winning. The spectacle has always been there and still is despite the over the top reaction to a few slightly processional races which only demonstrates that people have short memories.

    Reverse/random grids etc. have a place in some series like BTCC but they are 'motorsport entertainment' much i.e. WWE on wheels.

    We don't need to introduce any more gimmicks to 'fix' F1 we need to get rid of them and just address some of the technical regulations re. car design.
     
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    Stop all the fuel saving nonsense!
     
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    And looking after the tyres.
     
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    Oh and penalties for drivers when they need a new gearbox etc. if you have to penalise someone for that, take away some constructors points.
     
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    They have always put in as little as they could get away with

    always done that too

    That makes sense.

    More ground effect , less wings.
     
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    There were some races last year where tyres weren't a problem. I remember Nico getting a puncture on the first lap, pitting then racing for the whole race on one set and coming second. Tires don't have to be a problem.
    Implement a minimum fuel level that would allow drivers to race full pace on that amount.
     
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    That was Sochi , think they said it was something to do with temps, running on the harder compounds and the newness of the track surface.
    They need to disturb less of the air to allow cars to race closer. ground effect could be the way to do that
     
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    Absolutely. Following a car for a few laps shouldn't ruin your tires. We want them up close and personal as much as possible.
     
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    We know who they are, why bother with the actual Sunday race? Just give the trophies to the top three qualifiers.

    OK, another analogy, imagine the Olympics 100m final starting with Usain Bolt at the front and slower qualifiers lined up behind him (slowest at the back). That's what we have with F1. A random grid would allow the best drivers and best cars to shine and show quality rather than the situation we have now where many races are won and lost on pit stops, safety cars and pot luck predicting weather conditions.

    :)
     
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    The fastest qualifiers get preferential lane draws especially useful in say the 200m/400m where lots of runners don't want to be in lane 1 or 8. Not quite the same as a grid but a similar principle.

    Reverse grids are far more pot luck than predicting weather conditions, imagine the last race of the season two drivers tied on points, driver A gets drawn on pole and driver B starts last. People will say it evens out over the year but frankly that would be a deeply unsatisfying finish to a championship.
     
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    F1 is all about saving Money and making the sport safety. This in mind equals alot of boring races which is what we get. Making the sport more competative and drivers actually racing will mean safety will be less and more money will be spent, and that is not going to happen. So you can look forward to many years of borefest F1 Racing to come yet. If anyone can call it racing.
     
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    Tyres ! Tyres ! Tyres , stop with this deg crap as the drivers want to race and not worry about conserving their tyres. Better tracks with overtaking opportunities that overtaking is not reliant on a pit stop to change to option tyres just to pass , overtake on track not the pit lane. Fuel is ok as is as it was done for safety of pit crews and driver , new rules seem a step back for me.

    Let the buggers race, give em a full tank and decent tyres and let em go at it on track. At the same time relax options that would help the smaller teams compete .
     
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    A pet peeve of mine is tracks that don't let you overtake.
    That and crap tyres.
     
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    So Monaco then xD
     
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    Yep!
    I like the spectacle of it, but as a race, it's rubbish.
     
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    :smashin:

    It think it would be beneficial so get a somewhat fair leveling of payments to promote young teams that struggle with keeping afloat. I think Bernie is a complete arse on this point. Ha, wouldn't F1 would work just dandy with 8 or 10 cars on the grid that can afford to be their when the others can't?

    http://www.grandprix247.com/2015/05/14/formula-1-teams-secret-payments-by-fom-leaked/

    'Legacy payments' - totally ridiculous.

    :)
     

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