RenaultSport
Prominent Member
Err, where is the Q321 - I can't find it on Novatech's site?
is it sold out?
Maybe its being phased out for the E320?
Err, where is the Q321 - I can't find it on Novatech's site?
is it sold out?
Ran powerstrip and changed refresh rate to 50hz. It fixed the black border, but the loss in PQ is unacceptable.
Whereas using 1360x768@50Hz and the Q321 scaling the image you slightly loose some of that sharpness, but only slightly; the text does bleed at regular intervals across the screen, but it's not that bad.
I have just been on the Novatech website and it appears they are no longer selling the Q321, Can you confirm this KP?
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?NOV-Q321
I was thinking of getting one (as its great TV despite the lip sync issues) but now am not so sure?
so, where is the truth ?
"unacceptable" or "not that bad" ???
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These are the reasons why I'm going to buy it.If you're an HTPC user, you're limited with what will show 50Hz video properly. This does, it does it very very well, it's cheap, and for that reason, it's great.
thanks 16to9, it's clear now.
These are the reasons why I'm going to buy it.
Hope that lipsync issues (if any) will be restricted to the digital tuner only.
It should be no delay among the video (DVI) and the audio (whatever) sent from the HTPC, or not ?
thank you
I have contacted Novatch numerous times, but to no avail.I have just sent my set back
But to those that do have problems with the Q321, rather than complaining about it here in the forum, exercise your ability to speak directly with a representative from the company you purchased it from you may find that they are very helpful in trying to rectify your complaint, if they are not then come into the forum moaning, but at least you have given them the opportunity to do something about it before you do.
How??I have contacted Novatch numerous times, but to no avail.
Running it at 1360x768@50hz on the desktop after paying 600 quid for it with a primary use being as a desktop/HTPC IMO, Is definitely "unacceptable" the "bleeding" that this causes to the font when scaled to 1366 is blindingly obvious, as I no longer have 1:1 pixel mapping (albeit with a black bar on left side)
I suppose its a personal thing. For me, prolonged use with the font bleeding like that hurts my eyes (and my bank balance to PQ ratio) I would prefer to keep the PQ I get at 60hz on my desktop and when/if I have any problems with PAL DVD playback. I will try and tweak/find an app that will let me play it back at 50hz.
EDIT: Wonder if there is a way to split the unused pixels on the left side evenly. So there is two smaller black bars either side? If this was possible you would hardly notice them and would make the unused pixels a lot less irratating.
What you are seeing when you reach 50Hz and the border is 'corrected' is that the internal scaler of the TV kicks in and stretches the 1360x768 picture to fill the 1366x768 physical display resolution.
For video use you can either do this and loose some horizontal detail but gain smooth 50Hz source playback or go back to 60Hz and keep all the detail but put up with 50-60Hz frame conversion issues.
I stuck to 60Hz for a while but in the end preferred the smoothness of 50Hz for PAL based stuff.
I have contacted Novatch numerous times, but to no avail.
I see you are viewing CC.
Before you disappear , any more news on the firmware fix for the usual issue??
EDIT - Damn - he's gone already.
I#d love a full refund, is that what kp offered? In Novatechs correspondence they quoted a refund if I have the original box, and pay for a courier.To summarise, the options are:
1) Accept a refund in full.
2) Accept a TV with HDMI, but lose DVI.
3) Stick with what I have, but get it SkyHD readied.
4) Stick with what I have, never buy SkyHD, and avoid DVB. And ask, nay plead, for a partial gratis payment.
Dilemmas, dilemmas, dilemmas......
You will struggle to find any display out there that would meet your expectations, and that's even if you doubled your budget. If prolonged desktop use is your primary requirement, then you have cut one corner too much, this is first and foremost a television set. Quite why so many people are making such a fuss about a row of 6 pixels is completely beyond me, it is too miniscule to lament over such a tiny amount of desktop real estate. People seem to forget just how bad things were with CRT monitors in this regard, trying to expand the desktop to fill a CRT screen would introduce a lot of geometry problems forcing me to employ 1-2cm no-go border. Now that was annoying!
Yes, depending on what graphics card you have, it's control panel might have a screen adjustment function. I know on the nVidia cards, this also includes an option to centre the output on the display. Alternatively you can use powerstrip.
Well it was halloween last night . Unfortunately I did not consider nailing a bat to the side of the panel to fix lip-sync - damn.lipsync issues, I really don't understand...
It seems to me a matter of voodoo (bat nails etc..) rather than of electronics (firmware revision, input path etc..)
I think maybe you misunderstand me. I am one of the happy Q321 owners. My expectations are not high, I previously stated I am content to live with the unused pixels on the left side of the screen as I prefer to have the better PQ for use as a desktop.
@Running it at 1360x768@50hz on the desktop after paying 600 quid for it with a primary use being as a desktop/HTPC IMO, Is definitely "unacceptable" .
Ok All
I have the 2 senior product engineers landing with me tomorrow and they have not 1, not 2, not 3 but 4 new firmware versions written and hopefully ready to rock and roll. Now I don't know which will work or if some people will find one better than the others but I have been told that I will be able to post all of them tomorrow.
So fingers crossed there will be a lip sync fix on this forum from tomorrow.
Providing we are happy with the results.
Thanks for you patience in advance.
Kp
Ok All
I have the 2 senior product engineers landing with me tomorrow and they have not 1, not 2, not 3 but 4 new firmware versions written and hopefully ready to rock and roll. Now I don't know which will work or if some people will find one better than the others but I have been told that I will be able to post all of them tomorrow.
So fingers crossed there will be a lip sync fix on this forum from tomorrow.
Providing we are happy with the results.
Thanks for you patience in advance.
Kp
Ok All
I have the 2 senior product engineers landing with me tomorrow and they have not 1, not 2, not 3 but 4 new firmware versions written and hopefully ready to rock and roll. Now I don't know which will work or if some people will find one better than the others but I have been told that I will be able to post all of them tomorrow.
So fingers crossed there will be a lip sync fix on this forum from tomorrow.
Providing we are happy with the results.
Thanks for you patience in advance.
Kp