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Humax PVR9200T

Discussion in 'Digital TV & Video Players & Recorders' started by scottbown, Aug 15, 2005.

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  1. scottbown

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    Hi all,

    I've been looking for a Twin Freeveiw tuner PVR for a few months now and I've been disappointed with the offerings. The Toppfield looks good, but is expensive and there's no way to try before you buy. Also read a review in home cinema mag which poo pooed it. :(

    I had a search around and heard rumours about the Humax PVR9200T. I contacted Humax they confirmed it is due for release end of September 2005 and will cost approx £230. It will also be available in John Lewis, Comet etc :thumbsup:

    Humax also supplied me with some nice specs:
    - Twin tuner Personal Video Recorder
    - 160GB Hard Disc(100 Hours of recording)
    - Live Pause & TSR (Time shifted recording)
    - Recording two channels whilest watching a live TV
    - Trick play (Pause, Play, Fast fiorwardm, Fast rewind, Replay, Skip)
    - Plug & Play
    - 8 days Electronic programme guide
    - Easy record scheduleing in EPG
    - One touch instant recoding
    - RF modulators/Twin scarts(Scart cable included)
    - USB 2.0 connectivity for PC
    - Mpeg AV file transfer between PVR and PC
    - Digital Photo album and MP3 play
    - A/V file editing ( Split or Delete an appointed parts)
    - Dolby digital 5.1 optical output
    - PIP (Picture in Picture)
    - VFD display
    - 5 fabourite channel groups
    - No need loopthru to 2nd tuner ( Internal 2nd tuner)
    - Software Upgrade via OAD and serial connection (RS-232)
    - Digital Teletext and DVB subtitle
    - Over 30 FREE TV channels
    - Common Interface (TopUpTV Caompatibale)
    +more Hardware specs. I've uploaded it to my website feel free to download it http://www.scottbown.co.uk/Humax_PVR98000T_Specs.pdf

    Sounds good eh? (although an ethernet port would have been nice, no pleasing some people ;) )

    Could this be the one we've all been waiting for?

    What to others think?

    Scott
     
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    It has to be reliable. This has been a failing of (almost) every highly specified box to press. The Humax single tuner item is damned good in that respect, but very basic.

    The last I heard, their twin tuner PVR-in-a-LCD-TV machine had the unforgivable failing that, if a timer recording was in progress, you could not switch the TV off without losing the said recording. Which indicates to cynical old me, that even Humax's PVR programmers are none to bright.

    So, whilst I'd love one of these, I'm afraid I'll have to wait until the internet starts getting some meaningful opinion on how good a job they have actually done of it.
     
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    Prepare for a dumb question :confused: , if you only have an 8 day EPG, can you set it to record things in say 10 days time ?, presuming the long range TV schedule book is accurate.

    Rich.
     
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    Rumours abounded that they were going to design the unit around a removeable [ and therefore upgradable] HDD system, is this still the case ?
     
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    Yep, the 8 day EPG just means you can only see the schedule for the next 8 days, but you can manually set recording times for months or even years in the future if you so wish. You can also set repeat times so you can pickup the same time every day or week.
     
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    Nigel,

    Not sure what you mean by switching the tv off and losing the recording. I have a Humax PVR and I usually record things with the tv switched off, even if I'm watching and recording I can still switch the tv off and it will finish recording. :confused:
    I'm assuming by you mean while it's recording it allows you to switch the PVR off without any prior warning that you will lose the recording etc.
     
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    Eyeball. Please re-read. I'm talking about
    which has been on sale since about May.....not any of their standalone PVRs which (as you say, of course) operate independently of any TV you might have.
     
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    Humax didn't mention that, so I think probably not. (although that would be a kick ass feature.) :)
     
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    Certainly sounds like the box for me.

    I have both the Humax single tuner and the Digifusion twin tuner.

    On usability, the Humax beats the Digifusion hands down. The latter is a dogs dinner both in terms of operation and on screen display. The single biggest failing for me is that it can't do repeat recordings (i.e. record a series), so a key PVR benefit is immediately lost. There are programmes I want recorded every week and it can't do it.

    The Humax on the other hand is a joy to use, supports repeat recordings, supports EPG searches (very useful in fishing out randomly scheduled repeats on BBC3, E4 or ITV3), has a timeline EPG etc etc.

    I think I may well dump both boxes and upgrade to this - everything I want in one.
     
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    Would this be the Humax 9000 that we have all been so eagerly awaiting? If so why have they started calling it 9200?
     
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    If it shows the promise of the single tuner Humax then I will be buying one. If Humax say rrp £230 then it wont be long before the www sites will be offering it for £180!
    Tho LV246 prob right, let some other buggers beta test it first before you buy!
     
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    Mpeg AV file transfer between PVR and PC
    Does this mean I can transfer a recording from PVR to PC and then Burn it straight to a DVD-R?
     
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    Yes, I believe so. Which is better than the topfield where you have to convert the .rec files in to .mpg.
     
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    Even if it's an MPEG file it will be TS (Transmission Stream) rather than PS (Program Stream). The topfields rec files are just a wrapper around the MPEG TS to add extra information (e.g. the EPG guide details, channel recorded etc.), I would presume the Humax will have some kind of similar wrapper for this information.
     
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    Maybe a silly question?
    So if they are MPEG TS, can you still burn to DVD and play in DVD player?
     
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    See QED £184.47 here
     
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    Yes, you can. It's not the easiest thing to do though. OTOH, if you had a Snazzio SZ1350 networked DVD player installed on your LAN you could play the raw .TS files, decoding them in hardware, on your TV via a scart cable.

    This player also upscales DVD's to HD.....
     
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    Wow thats pretty good!, althogh i think i may hold off ordering until i can have a play with one in John Lewis.
     
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    MPEG TS just contains extra sanity checks to cope with errors in the stream. Plus things like the ability to alter aspect ratio and number of audio streams (for example when it goes to an ad break). You don't need this for PS as you start a new MPEG for each programme.

    Tools like Project X will convert the TS to PS: http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=ProjectX

    For use with my Topfield (which produces .rec files) I use Project X to convert to Mpeg PS (free) and then VideoRedo (shareware) for editing - http://www.videoredo.com/
     
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    So, is it on sale in this Country yet (England) and if so, where can I have a look at one ?

    Rich.
     
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    Apparently it's ot on sale until the end of September.
    Paul
     
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    This line confuses me:
    Recording two channels whilest watching a live TV

    Does that mean it has 3 tuners?

    Paul
     
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    It's probably like the Topfield. The "third" channel has to be within one of the muxes already being received for the two recordings. Or, if the two recordings are off the same mux, then the second tuner is "spare" and can be used for watching.
     
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    No, it means you need to get out more :D ;)

    The content quality of current UK TV programmes would make this feature redundant anyway :D
     
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    Suprising how often I use this facility on my toppy actually.

    But I probably do need to get out more you're right. Now I wonder if those mobile video player things are any good...
     
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    now explain to me, why on earth would you ever want to record two recordings are off the same mux? Doesnt that mean 2 of the same channel?
     
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    A mux is one UHF TV "channel" (and it's this that the tuner(s) tune in to). Each mux contains several different TV and/or radio programmes. There are only six muxes to cover the entire spread of programmes you can get on Freeview.

    So, for example:

    You can record programme (a) from mux 1 using tuner 1.
    You can also record programme (b) from mux C using tuner 2.
    At the same time you could watch programme (c) provided it shares either Mux 1 or Mux C

    Full details of the muxes and their contents are here:

    http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/dtt_channels.html
     
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    Will it be possible to record 2 channels and play back a recording at the same time?
     
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    Yes, I believe so. It's certainly theoretically possible and I believe I've read that this box will have it enabled.
     
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    I would certainly expect so, the Digifusion FVRT200 already does this for example.
     

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