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HS20 or Z2?

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by Kane D Williams, Nov 17, 2003.

  1. Kane D Williams

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    Which should I try to get out of my insurance company (damaged current PJ)? I will not be using an HCPC, but will get a 720p/1080i DVI DVD player soon? At the moment I will be using my Tosh SD900E via component either interlaced or progressive?

    If only the Epson TW200 had DVI, I wouldn't hesitate at the now £1500 asking price!

    Thanks for any help.
     
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    Is there not a fault with the tw200?

    If the insurance company are paying, go for the hs20! Even if you later decided you wanted a Z2 you could sell the hs20, buy a Z2 and still come out in profit!

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    HS20 is a long throw PJ - an important consideration for many.

    As Ad says, get the more expensive one :D
     
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    And push up the premiums for the rest of us:thumbsdow
     
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    Yeah, you're correct. I reckon house insurance premiums will soar if the guy gets a HS20 :rotfl:

    The HS20 isn't released in the UK yet anyway & it's unlikely his insurer will import from Japan for him :p

    Ever think what the value of his (damaged) PJ is? Perhaps it's worth far more than either Z2 or HS20 & he's doing them a favour?

    BTW, am dealing with an insurer at present (who's insured wrote off my '02 Citroen). They're not being very benevolent I can assure you :(
     
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    Getting back to the question. Go for a Z2. That way you can earn interest with the cash while you wait for the damn thing to turn up.
     
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    oh there is spite in there! :D

    there is a thread on avs dealing with this topic, well mroe specifically if the hs20 is worth $1000 more than the Z2. Opinions are unsurprisingly split but I get the feeling that the HS20 owners are rather clinging to the specs and that with proper calibration these specs can be realised.

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  8. Kane D Williams

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    Thanks guys.

    My previous (damaged) projector is a Sony VPL-PX1, which I bought used for £1275 about 3 years ago. It was about £4500 when new, but was available for about £3800 on the street.

    It is amazing just how things have changed, prices are very good now for projectors and £1275 for the PX1 now seems ludicrous!

    I like the dual DVI inputs (one HDMI) as this guarantees compatibility with DVI DVD players etc and I also like the idea of the 12-bit colour, but I'm not sure if this is relevant with 8-bit DVD's? The long throw would also be a bonus in my room and the MLA array is nice!

    The Z2 however, has a 1280x720 res, which would be better for most DVI equipped players I believe, and HD, if it ever reaches our shores?

    I will be happy to get any of these new machines, but I would like to simply get one with the better picture! Has anyone seen both of these PJ's?
     
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    I think the projector technology will have long moved on by the time we get proper HD.

    I wouldnt worry about the res, as far as i can gather the hs20 is more than capable of downscaling cleanly

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    Could be wrong but I don't think any forum members own the Z2 yet ;)
     
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    there is a reported Z2 owner on the ivojo thread.....

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  12. Kane D Williams

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    I wonder if the HS20 would allow a pass through resolution of 1280x720 and simply not use its extra pixels?
     
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    Yep, 1280x720 with an unused border is possible in Video GBR mode over DVI.

    Thing is, I like all them pixels :)
     
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    I think if the Pj is doing the scaling then all the pixels is what you want, if an external scaler/DVD player is better and only does 720p then a pass through may be better?

    Cheers for confirmation.
     
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    Kramer:

    At least one Z2 owner here, guess who? :)

    /pJ
     
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    After reading the great review over at AVS about the HS20, I think I will try to get this baby out of my insurance company! It sound like it has no colour issues and is pretty bright at no detriment to contrast! I guess that the contrast ratio may be better on the Z2, but the HS20 still sounds great!

    BTW, the current replacement for my damaged Pj is the Sony VPL PX15, which sells for £4186 at AV-Sales (£3640 at Ivojo), so I'm hoping asking for a £2100 unit will not seem bad to them? However, they are aware that I bought my current pj second hand, does anyone know if this would effect what they are prepared to offer me?

    Cheers
     
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    depends whether your policy is old for new......

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    .......shouldn't that be "new for old" :)
     
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    rats my new money making scheme has been spotted! :D

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    And if you have an adequate sum insured for all your contents.

    Did you insure it for £4186?

    If so, they may want to use an replacement company. They should then be authorised to send you goods to the value of.......So you could get two Pj's

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    That's all fine & dandy but....

    :p :D

    I'd push them for a Sharp Z10k :)
     
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    Lets all not claim ever and insurance should be free ?:smashin:
     
  23. Kane D Williams

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    Just remembered, my maximum claim amount per item is £1500! Damn!!! If they are willing to give me that amount I then have the dilema of taking a Z2 or putting in £600 to get the HS20! As I am currently out of work, broke and in dept I could only get the Sony if the shop will give me 12 months interest free on the £600, but if all goes well I may have a nice job soon (assistant film editor) and I can get the HS20 guilt free! Keep your fingers crossed!
     
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    ah get the Z2, no point giving yourself any unnecessary hassle

    all the best in the future though

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