I have owned a Panasonic E30 for a year now, and have been thrilled with it's performance - still am. I have also looked long and hard at getting Sky+, but have so far resisted due to the infamous £10 sub and concerns over the build quality/reliability of the Sky+ box. I have just spent a week having full use of a Sky+ system whilst on business, and whilst it's very good, I have not been fully convinced that it's the system for me. I have in fact decided against Sky+ and for upgrading to a HDD/DVDR combi. Speaking personaly, I think the HDD/DVDR route offers greater functionality and greater flexibility. I can live with having to manually set the HDD/DVDR timer, certainly on the Panasonic it's really simple. I know that I will also have to do without the twin tuners, but lets face it, with most programmes either repeated or time shifted, one should be able to record most things. The only thing now is, do I buy the HS2, which my local Panny agent informs me will shortly become an end of line model, or do I wait to see what else gets released. By waiting a few months chances are the HS2 will become cheaper anyway.