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Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by dek1965, Nov 23, 2003.

  1. dek1965

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    i got a hoya fld filter yesterday, 52mm
    it fitted exactly inside the lens housing without any tape
    fired up the panny 200, pq was far better, vastly improved colour definition.
    even the wife commented on the picture improvement
    definately worht the money
     
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    Think I'm about to plump for one of these for my ae200 too - did you get it from the US supplier frequently posted? (link would be good!).
    Did it have any effect in reducing screen door?

    Also, is this deffo the 52mm, as many ppl said 55mm?

    Ta :)
     
  3. dek1965

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    Thanks Dek, about to go for it, think I'll go with the US one though as I won't be using it for a week now anyway so may aswell save myself £4 :D
     
  5. dek1965

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    goof

    deff worth it
    u won't regret buying one
     
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    You don't need to sell me but could you convince my g/f of that please Dek, cos I'm getting an earfull :rolleyes:

    "You're going to spend another £20 on a stupid little thing that probably won't make any difference".

    Women :lesson:
     
  7. dek1965

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    my wife who is not easily impressed and doesn't really care about the pj---- she noticed the picture improvement immediately (high praise indeed)
     
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    Since I moved I haven't used my filter once. I found that it makes reds look pink, despite recalibration, and that's something which is unforgivable imho.

    Previously I'd used it for 12 months and was pleased, but the red levels really did annoy me....

    Worth bearing in mind with all the praise that these filters get heaped upon them.
     
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    Nice one, I am going to get one of these I think.

    There is two things holding me back though, but I think you might be able to help.

    1 - Is the picture better throughout, or do you lose reds etc now? Obviously this is a problem as the Panasonic 200 doesnt have much in the way of tweaking RGB/Component colours etc. As long as it improves colours/blacks and doesnt create problems for other colours then that is cool.

    2 - It sounds like this lense fits inside the 200 housing? (obviously I mean on the inside of the focus/zoom barrel on the outside of the projector). This is great as some lenses I have seen you have to stick on the front of the projector with tape - I am not too keen on this to be honest.
     
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    hi,

    1st - i thought that the overall picture improved, colors looked more vibrant, screendoor effect seemed to improve, and the overall picture seemed easier on the eyes.

    but this is my opinion, a lot of avforum members have these and seem pretty happy with it, others will disagree, but for about £20 u can't really go wrong.

    2nd--- yes the filter fits nicely inside the housing

    hope this helps
     
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    Excellent, definetly worth a go for £20.

    Thanks.
     
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    There's a long thread about the Hoya already on the forum - you might be interested in checking it out ................... linked in the FAQ.

    The Hoya is really only effective on AE100/200 if you have access to the White Balance controls - these are available in the Picture menu if you're using VGA input, from a pc or ProV or a dvd player which uses VGA output (#nintaus, for example). The Hoya cuts the "green push" that comes from the type of lamp used; it also reduces the "Blue" element in the colour balance; in order to restore the colour balance, it is necessary to increase the Wbal Green and Wbal Blue in the Picture menu - this results in more faithful colour rendition, better contrast, and is well worth it.

    I imagine that the effect of using the hoya without the ability to correct the White Balance would actually screw up the colour accuracy of the image..........................


    Sean G.
     
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    Read that aforementioned thread Sean, and there was a link to a good page that showed "with" and "without" results that were quite an eye-opener :)
     
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    I use a Cokin FLD plastic single sided filter which doesn't affect the colours too much and only 7 quid from Jessops. Great for component vid source. Even my wife noticed the big improvement.
     
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    I’ve observed many times forum members wives being mentioned in the context of “they noticed a big difference in picture quality, etc.

    Can I therefore indulge in asking members if I should get a wife first, followed (not too distantly) by a projector…….or should I reverse the process?
     
  16. dek1965

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    projector first - then wife
    if u get a wife first, she probably won't let you buy a projector
     
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    I think that sometimes, we all get bogged down with things like the picture - when we need to perhaps step back and go 'wow, its great !'.

    Occasionally, it can take the objective opinion of ones partner for us to actually go, 'mmm maybe there is an improvement', even if we do then spend the next six weeks watching films whilst we remove the filter every fifteen seconds as we try and compare the PQ!

    Three cheers for our wives I say!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

    Cap:smashin:
     
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    Thanks for that advice Dek .....it's good to get the priorities right :D
     
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    ok,ive looked at the castle camera link,

    exactly what filter did you buy? theres so many,im lost.
     
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    I recently wondered if my filter was improving the picture or not, so after months of continious use, I removed it for a few days. I wanted to see if the brighter output gave the picture more snap and better impact on bright scenes.

    What I got was a picture that seemed a lot more washed out, the contrast ratio seemed far less credible and the colors did not have the same vibrance.

    Being a critical lot, I think we see it more clearly when the picture gets WORSE rather than when it gets better...:laugh:

    I wouldn't do without it now.
     
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    damage

    goto filter section,then color correction, scroll down page to

    Hoya FLD 52

    assuming you have a panny 200
     
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    Can you post the link please I don't seem able to find it.
     
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    Hoya FLD 52
    Stock item

    Price: £17.00 Including VAT at 17.5%


    Mid way down the page (link above) :rolleyes:
     
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    Thank's, but, no......

    I was after the article about that comparitive review with screenshots of with and without the filter fitted that was mentioned a few postings above
     
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    Tempest,

    If I understood that post (Goof's ?) correctly, it referred to the link in the FAQ - I recall posting a link in the thread to a site which advertised the Hoya FLD filter and it had comparison shots with/without the filter showing it's effect in photographing a scene lit by flourescents - showing how it removes the green tinge that comes from flourescent lighting - that's what the filter is designed for.

    Sean G.
     
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    Maybe they should have used one on the Matrix films... ;)
     
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    See above, I posted it a couple of posts above guys!
     
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    Thanks guys for this........

    I have two (perhaps simplistc questions) which I'm sure you will regard as rather stupid......

    This filter removes the green cast inherant in LCD projectors

    1: Why not just turn down the green on the projector !!

    2: If this works so well, why don't the manufacturors create their optics with this coating as standard ?
     

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