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How useful are SCART connections?

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by jrpavel, Jan 29, 2004.

  1. jrpavel

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    I notice that the couple of higher-end receivers that I have looked at (Pioneer AX5i, Onyko 801E) have no scart connections.

    What are the advantages/disadvantages?

    - if I want to hook up a digibox (nokia 221t)
    - ... a DVD player (Sony DVP-NS-900V)
    - a VHS video?
    - a Panny plasma panel

    Is it just a matter of quality, or are there technical reasons for this absence?

    I quite like being able to switch to an input device just by switching it on!
     
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    They are too big to fit a useful amount to the back of an AV receiver and better picture quality can be gained by using component video connections. The only receivers I have seen with Scart connections on them are the top end Marantz models, but even then I think it's a silly idea.
     
  3. jrpavel

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    OK. So how do I connect my freeview box to my screen and still get stereo sound?

    PS: I see that the Pioneer VSX-C501 or the 301 also have Scarts.
     
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    Pioneer have some entry level amps with scart, 301 and 501 but scart is rare and S-video and component are favoured in US and far east! Whats your budget? Most DVD's (higher end) have componet and almost all have S-video, a netgem Freeviw box has component, and Amps like Denon 380X HKAVR4550/507 yamaha 1400 have component and S-video (yamaha doing conversion) so depends what you are looking to spend.
     
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    My ideal Receiver would be one of the Onykos that are networkable, but I cannot see how I would get the Nokia 221T to feed it. Or is the answer something simple like a SCART to component/svideo cable?
     
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    cant do it mate need an active converter either RGB>YUV or RGB>S-video (buy a netgem and use nokisa in another room.) AN RGB > YUV will cost as much as netgem! unless you have other RGB only sources (sky, cable) its not worth it.
     
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    The netgem's connections are:

    optical digital out (S/PDIF)
    RF in and out (pass-through)
    SCART output socket
    SCART AUX (pass-through) socket
    jack stereo line out
    telephone jack (RJ11)
    USB port (for digital accessories)
    DVBCI (pay-TV)
    mains

    Is it the S/PDIF that connects to the receiver?


    An alternative approach would be to get a tu-pta600 tuner box for the Panny, but people seem pretty sniffy about them in these parts.
     
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    Dont get the tuner! utter crap!
    THe netgem outputs component over its scart socket so you need a scart > YUV cable and enable component in software set-up S/PDIF is digital audio which will connect to amp for sound. Search for netgem here to find more info about using component out.
    I asssume you have a PW4/5 panny screen not a PW6 if it is a PW6 you can fit a SCART board, bypassing them amp so amp wont select video source, only audio.
     
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    Should you wish for Scart sockets on the back, your choices are (I believe) limited to Marantz, Marantz or Marantz. The SR8300 and 9300 both carry some Scart sockets.
     
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    jrpavel - I think your missing a point/confusing something.

    Scart is a connection type, NOT a signal type.

    It can carry Composite, s-video or RGB signals, all of which can be used with other cables.

    Just use a scart -> xxx convertor cable to whatever flavour goes into the av amp and vice versa.
     
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    It comes down to what you want from your cabling.

    Scart has the benefits of:
    * Auto-switching
    * Auto-switching of aspect ratio
    * RGB
    * Carries audio

    All the remaining features (eg. S-Video, composite video, component video etc) are compatible with standard amps.

    By routing through the amp in S-Vid, composite or component (as is possible with virtually all AV amps) there remains no benefit in auto-switching of the input or carrying the audio signals.

    Basically, if you can cope without an RGB picture (component and S-Vid should be fine anyway) and are competent enough to change the displays aspect ratio (a nice remote can be set to this automatically anyway) then there's no benefit in using scart.
     
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    My understanding of my problem is that (unless I get a netgem, as has been suggested above) I cannot get surround sound out of my Nokia 221T freeview box, because it only has SCART connection.
     
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    Or Pioneer 301 por 501?
     
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    It's a PW6 that I have in prospect, so to get surround sound, I would use the SCART cable to connect the 221T direct to the screen and a separate connection to the amp to get surround sound?
     
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    Freeview is only stereo anyhow so L+R will do the audio.

    Sky has limited DD broadcasts , only the SKy+ boxes have dig outs (aoart from sony but not sure if that works still).
     
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    Nokia should L+R phonos as well as digital audio out, so audio to amp and RGB scart to screen, use the component board for DVD and then the video board or second scart fo anthing else.
     
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    Dolby Pro Logic works fine on my current TV
     
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    Thanks for staying with this. This sounds like the way to go (although I am tempted to look for the Netgem anyway...)
     
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    No worries mate.
     
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    I concur, only Sky has 5.1 Dolby Digital broadcast available for the moment. So although some Freeview decoder boxes have digital outputs they will still only be outputting a stereo signal. This is only of benefit if you have aparticulalry good offboard DAC and aven then the broadcast quality of audio over Freeview is pretty poor and pretty muc unrecoverable from even the best of offboard DACs.
     
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    yeah whatever
     

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