Question How to get' that' shot

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  1. eob

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    Getting ready to head on holiday again.
    Not had much chance to use the Nikon D5100 much recently so I'm probably a bit rusty, but one shot that I want to try and get but messed up last year is the sunset family landscape.
    You know the one. Sun going down, marina in the background, family on the beach.
    I don't know if I lack the ability or equipment, but I pissed the family off last year as I tried to capture the shot.
    I either ends up with a nice sunset with the family silhouetted or had to move in closer for the flash to work, but then couldn't get the best of the background.
    Anyone got any suggestions on settings/techniques I could try?
    Cheers.
     
  2. weaviemx5

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    Generally you will want to me metering for the sunset (because you can't change that!) then firing at least one off camera flash to add light onto your family. Balancing the two is the challenge but you should be able to adjust the flash power enough to get a good result without annoying your family and also missing the sunset.
     
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    Flash or HDR/bracket. Unless you want to position the family at an angle so some natural light falls on their faces.

    You need to balance flash and ambient. Shoot in Manual and meter for the sunset, then have flash in TTL and let it take care of itself. You can adjust flash exp comp if it's too much/too little
     
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    Bracket. Combine in post.
     
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    Cheat! (but definitely the simplest way to get the shot without faffing about balancing flash)
     
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    Bracketing is not cheating, it's a valid technique. Flash shouldn't be a faff with TTL tbh, it's pretty automated these days. You just need to make sure you're exposing right for the sunset, but you need to do this whether using flash or not.
     
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    Jokes really don't come across well online do they ;0)

    Doing whatever is necessary to get the shot is never cheating, it's creative..
     
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    They do if people learn to use emoticons properly (or at all) :p
     
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    It had an old-school exclamation mark :)
     
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    Not for Toby ;)
     
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    Agreed, they need explaining :rolleyes: :p

    Aren't you the emoticon police though? ;)
     
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    Along side the technical aspects, i would managed your expectations too. I know all to well the frustration of not getting the shot you have in your mind if the family don't play ball or are bored etc.

    I find being more flexible and open to opportunity, you can get the shots you want, although not 'that' shot, at least you have captured something.
     
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    Metering for the brightest part in the back and using off camera flash is the best possible way using a single shot.

    Here's two I took that way. One with on camera flash and the other with off camera flash. D5100 and SB700

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    Why did you mark my post as funny and then say the same thing? :p

    Those shots are nice but I would say the balance isn't quite right as it's obvious that you used flash, unless of course that's the look you were going for ;)
     
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    I think I wanted to click 'Agree', but pressed 'Funny' by mistake I guess :eek:. These were casual shots and not set the way I would want if I had to shoot again, but I like the look.
     
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    Lol, done that myself. Yep, I like them too and sometimes like the obvious use of flash, I just thought you were demonstrating how to balance them :blush: :laugh:
     
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    As said above, I would meter and make sure the sunset exposure is right first (fire couple of test shots if needed) - of course you need to be in Manual as always - then add the flash to light your family.
    Couple of tips:
    • set your flash in Manual for better control (TTL is not very reliable in difficult lighting conditions)
    • get your flash off your camera for more pleasing results (failing that shoot into a reflector)
    • use light modifier, like a softbox or umbrella for better light quality
    Another option is bracketing.
     
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    TBH I've found TTL on my SB-700 very reliable and also repeatable, but of course manual is always better for ultimate control :)
     
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    Off camera flash... use TTL with the flash exposure compensation wound down a little. Camera in manual and expose for the sunset. The only tricky bit is having the camera and flashes that are capable of TTL, remote commander/flash exposure compensation mode etc...

    If you can get someone to hold the flash it'll save on using a stand. A test shot or 2 to ensure you have the flash exposure comp correct and use spot metering for the skin tones.

    Look for mini/portable softboxes/reflectors on ebay... should fit directly onto the flash head and give a much nicer light.
     
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    Thanks for the replies. Will get some practice in and hopefully it will pay off. :cheers:
     

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