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how secure are pm messaging systems??

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by samjet, Jul 14, 2005.

  1. samjet

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    firstly - i want to make it very clear that my comments are NOT directed at any moderators etc on this forum :D

    my concerns are about other forums :( is it possible for moderators etc to read your pm's without you knowing - and if the answer is yes are there any encryption systems that you can use :confused:
     
  2. Dr Diversity

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    You could write it in code
     
  3. -Jay-

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    What you trying to hide? lol
     
  4. Dr Diversity

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    You could type it very quickly and hope nobody else sees it
     
  5. samjet

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    nothing dodgy but doubts have been expressed in some quarters that big brother may be watching :D

    and i reiterate NOT this forum :eek:
     
  6. Gary D

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    my understanding is that nothing is safe anymore. in the last week i've heard various people on the news talking about what thewy can see. very very scary!


    Gary
     
  7. samjet

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    but what happens if it sits in the recipients in box for hours??

    i know moderators private forums are not always secure because they have been hacked :D
     
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    It was a joke :)
     
  9. Nick_UK

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    I don't think that moderators on most forum software can read PM's, but since nearly all forums now use databases to store stuff, it's not beyond the bounds of the administrator of any website to access the database directly and read the contents. To do this, you would need to have access to the server directly, which is normally outside the realms of moderators.

    If you have anything you don't want someone else to read, send it by Royal Mail. Even e-mail can be intercepted :eek:
     
  10. samjet

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    does not worry me if gchq reads :D doubt if any keywords are echelon 'listed' but you never know - a list of some words was published in another place and they were quite an eye opener!!
     
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    Gay code?
     
  12. Dr Diversity

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    ??
     
  13. samjet

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    one forum i use - obviously checks/reads pms in some form as if you swear in a pm the offending word is deleted - or is this just a programme???

    don't see why you can't swear when talking to mates etc :(
     
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    Many forums do this automatically for both public and private messages.
     
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    Cool- If GCHQ do read everything and respond to keywords, I'm going to have to work out how to "anthrax" and "fatwah" into my signiture to give my friends that work there something to do :laugh:.
     
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    They have robots listening into cell phone calls too.
     
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    Being a moderator myself, I have the ability to read PM's, edit them, intercept them, make them up, send them from different usernames............everything!

    I also have use of a filter sysytem much like the one the government uses, so, if anyone mentions my name in a PM then I am alerted and can deal with any insobordination swiftly and invisibly.

    It's great being a moderator!























    All of the above is clearly a joke so don't start being silly about it :D
     
  18. mjn

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    E-Mail IS intercepted.

    If you send 2 e-mails to yourself, at the same time, with one having a subject field of "bomb", guess which one will arrive first?
     
  19. Gary D

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    steve, you almost made me want to be a mod then :D

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    If they check both for key words then why does the 'bomb' one take longer?
     
  21. mjn

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    Because its intercepted...and checked for contents.
     
  22. HMHB

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    So it's you who's been sending me the love letters :D
     
  23. stevegreen

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    No, It was IanJ :p :laugh:
     
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    Stuart does have access to them PM's on this site until they are delted that is (well i guess he may be able to retreive those) and any filter system is not perfect neither is any encryption but the simplest ones to use a multiple part transmissions ie parlty sent email, PM, SMS, phone call etc there are huge amounts of data flaoting around so much infact that to generate anything meaning full the filter has to be very very tight otherwise eveything gets through think of google for example probably the most used search engine on the web with the biggest database of sites but even that is no where near accuarte enough for general searches. Googlewhacking is a sport *** the mos secure system in the land is PSTN the good old landline analogue, voice only no packets or flags and needs a court order to be tapped/checked...............could you imagine the confusion at the CIA if they had Xbox live comms searched the number of people being shot bombed crashed killed etc they wouldn't be able to cope.............
     
  25. Nick_UK

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    Does it give you access to the spelling checker too ? :D :rotfl:
     
  26. Ian J

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    No wonder Sean didn't get them. It was you diverting them again :mad:
     
  27. MartinImber

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    GCHQ is a funny place, the workers there are allowed to tell you some details of their work ie job title. If they say they are not allowed to tell you it is because they have a low level job. IE they can say they are a secretary or a librarian or an engineer, but not what they actually do.

    A friend who used to work there told me this, he left because he didn't do that much - his work got less and less as time went on, and the bosses he was getting were basically waiting for retirement, some days he just sat around working for himself. He could possibly have cross trained but prefered to leave.

    Below is public knowlege

    The things which are known about GCHQ are quite interesting - like they invented an encryption algorythm which was then patented by some yanks about 10 years later - because GCHQ wanted it kept secret (fair enough).

    One thing I will mention, most of the staff are like you and me - they want a safe Britain and are patriotic. Apart from a few "I am so important" losers and a few "unions are more important than national security" they do the job for the good training, pay and interesting job.

    However if I could ask them one question - it would be "have you cracked Videoguard?"

    Anyway GCHQ doesn't worry me, but the US does, they are not as good as the British at their job and they are a lot more gungho
     
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    Nice way to upset any secretaries, librarians and engineers reading this post :rotfl:
     
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    GCHQ is like any government agency: there are about 9 people actually doing any important work. The rest are drinking coffee, attending pointless meetings and waiting for 4pm.

    Those 9 are highly trained and work bloody hard, but like any govt agency GCHQ is also under-staffed. If you think they have time to check everything going through every ISP all the time......... :rolleyes:
     
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    Well, you've done it now ! You know they're reading this, don't you ? :D

    Seriously though, one thing I didn't realise when I signed the Official Secrets Act is that you can't un-sign it :eek:
     

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