Hi everyone. As a complete newbie in the world of Hifi/home cinema I need some major advice on haggling-how much to haggle and what approximately you might expect a dealer to be able to do if spending a lot of money on multiple items. I'm thinking of purchasing Arcam AVR250 Themescene H30A Quad L series AV speaker package from seveoaks this comes to a totol of £3890 excluding cables. with Cables will be over £4000. What I'd like to know is how much is it reasonable to haggle? Because £3890 is too expensive for me. But people talk about a dealer doing them great deals if buying >1 item together. I've previously seen Creative Audio in Shresbury offer 25% discounts when buying speaker/AMP packages. So would it be reasonable to haggle for 25% off the Arcam/Quad/Themescene package if bought at the same time from the same dealer. Or am I going to be wasting my time and put people's backs up! Otherwise I'll wait a while for either prices to drop or will buy a cheaper speaker package instead.