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Discussion in 'Desktop & Laptop Computers Forum' started by sneaky, Jan 19, 2004.

  1. sneaky

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    Hi Guys,

    I am going to try the HCPC route for scaling etc. I already have most of the kit. I'm in the IT game.

    My question is once I have set the one eyed monster up - is that it or do you continually have to mess about with the settings.

    I just want to watch movies, im not really interested in continually messing with the technology - I have enough of that during the day.

    Chris
     
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    Once it up and running and its stable and you if you are happy with it then you can leave it be.

    I quite like tinkering though: if you use a driveimaging program you can tweak with impunity pretty much.
     
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    Thanks Keith,

    By drive imaging - do you mean Ghost.

    Had any experience of Nebula, X-Card or Sweetspot.

    Which projector do you have. Did you ever test the HS20 against the 12ht.

    Thanks

    Chris
     
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    I set my original HTPC up 2 years ago.
    It took about 3 days of messing.
    Since then all I did was upgrade TheaterTek which ended up needing a reinstall.
    Worked every time for about 2-300 films without any messing at all.

    In general, everyone gets to a point where it all 'just works'.
    Only enabling new features or installing new software/hardware presents any problems at all.

    Hope that helps
     
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    Thanks Alex,

    Ill give it a go.

    You obviously sell, sweetspot and the xcard, is this a good combination. What type of quality can I expect.

    Do you know about the nebual card.

    Thanks

    Chris
     
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    Sweetspot ..great for analogue sources , best capture quality I've seen.
    Theatertek ...excellent dvd playback ( video deinterlacing sucks though)
    Nebula...great PVR solution , good quality , good software good support.

    Xcard ...never used assum,e its comparable to an sdi modded player. Dscaler is much better at deinterlacing video based material than anything else out there though.

    Still not had a chance to demo the 12ht against the HS20.
    Currently using a 37" panny plasma and an ae100 ( mothballed at the moment).

    I use Acronis Trueimage for drive backup as its easy to use through windows without booting into dos.
     
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    Thanks Keith,

    What is DScaler and where can I have a look at it.

    Im a bit confused, You say Sweetspot is a capture card - I thought it was a scaler. I don't need to capture anytingh, I have a video capture machine with a Matrox 2000.

    Presumably Nebula can capture can do its own recording to hard disk.

    Chris
     
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    Nebula is a freeview tuner card. When it records it just dumps the datastream to HD so its the same quality as broadcast( two card dual tuner support coming soon).

    Sweetspot is an analogue capture card specifically for use with Dscaler to turn your HTPC into a deinterlacer/scaler for analogue sources. You probably can't touch it deinterlace quality wise this side of 5K.
    Dscaler does the deinterlacing : its shareware and also works with many other capture cards ( including sdi).

    You also use Dscaler with the Xcard for dvd playback as an alternative to software players. ( advantages ...better video deinterlacing , for film material I doubt there is much in it between this and a good software player).
     
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    Thanks Guys,

    Alex

    I have ordered the Sweetspot and X-Card from the site. On the Paypal Bill, it doesn't mention any VAT. Can you elaborate on this please. There doesn't seem to be any phone number to ring.

    I need a VAT invoice.

    Chris
     
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    I guess the term capture can be a bit confusing.
    SweetSpot does 'capture' the signal and convert it to digital.
    However, it relies on software to drive it and do something with the digital stream.

    At the moment DScaler is the only software with SweetSpot support. However there's no reason why SweetSpot wouldn't work in the same way as your Matrox card when used in conjuction with the right piece of software.

    Even DScaler has some experimental timeshifting features.

    Also calling SweetSpot a Scaler is not accurate (Same goes for DScaler) as it's really the Radeon that's doing the scaling. All we're doing is presenting the captured signal in the best way possible for these things to take place.

    Does that help?
    Probably not:D
    Alex
     
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    Hi Sneaky
    I've seen your email.
    Someone from Customer Services will be in touch with you shortly.

    Cheers for the order
    Alex
     
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    Got all that,

    Presumably Sweetspot is cleaning up the Signal.

    The only question to be aked is if the Radeon does the Scaling, how much better is the quality of Picture with the Sweetspot.

    Chris
     
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    SweetSpot doesn't actually do any cleaning - it just makes sure it captures the signal cleanly in the first place.
    Many people have mentioned that they used to use some of the noise filters in DScaler with other capture cards, but turn them off with SweetSpot freeing up the cpu for better deinterlacing methods.

    Our comparisons put SweetSpot ahead of every other consumer DScaler option currently available.
    S-Video and Composite are cleaner and more accurately coloured than anything else and then you've got Component and RGB to take it to another level.
    Obviously judging 'how' much better is a tricky one.

    Put it this way. I notice the difference whatever I'm watching. Consoles, SKY (even the poorer channels), Camcorder, whatever.

    So does my wife:D
     

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