How much notice to give?

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  1. slackbladder

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    I may have an opportunity to start a new job but there's a chance they may want me in no less than a week of accepting. However I am currently employed. I have only been with them for 4 months so I wondered if one weeks notice was acceptable. I can't afford to lose a weeks pay if I change and lose that pay as I won't get paid by the new company until the end of December (or just before). So is one weeks notice acceptable?
     
  2. rousetafarian

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    Are you under a contract of employment? I’d assume you are so refer to the notice period stated in the contract.

    As for getting paid at the end of December are you are certain about that? Usually you’d have to work in advance and be paid monthly, again refer to your terms.
     
  3. koeman

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    If you're weekly paid then a weeks notice is probably correct, however check your contract.

    If the company want you sooner tell them they will have to cover anything you'll lose out on from breaching your contract. Normally this wouldn't be anything worse than missing your notice pay.
     
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  4. rousetafarian

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    This makes perfect sense, far more lucid than my effort.
     
  5. prezzy

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    Notice periods are pointless there is nothing an employer can do if you just leave.

    I work in HR and am on 3 months notice as per my contract - there is zero chance I would work it if I got another job.
     
  6. rousetafarian

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    And risk forsaking 3 months salary?
     
  7. prezzy

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    I wouldn't risk losing anything, you have to get paid for work done - if I walked out tomorrow in to a new job I would be getting paid by my new employer - notice periods are nonesene.

    Also if an employer was to try and take an employee to court for breaking contract etc for leaving early it would cost them more in time etc than it would just to write it off.
     
  8. imightbewrong

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    Presumably you could be taken to court for breach of contract if you left them in the lurch, not to mention burning bridges for not honouring your agreements. Depends if you are going into some amazing job I guess. Why wouldn't you work your notice?
     
  9. prezzy

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    If I had a solid offer of a new job then there is no problem - I have another job there is nothing that can be done.

    I am not condoning it at all - if I left my job I would work my notice or try and sort out some sort of agreement so I could help them out and leave sooner as I wouldn't want to leave my current employer in the lurch etc but there really would be f all they could do about it if I just left.
     
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    Your message is not clear :)
     
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    I wouldn't work three months notice if I left I would work something out where I could still sort them out until they got a replacement sorted :)
     
  12. imightbewrong

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    Maybe in a junior role - more senior roles would cause a lot of risk and loss if they just walked out of a project with a 'see ya!' on any random day.
     
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    Ah right - so you would still be honouring your - amended - contract.
     
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    But if you try and enforce notice periods what is to stop someone just getting signed off sick etc?
     
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    Ah the old double-pay - sounds like fraud :)
     
  16. prezzy

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    I would because I like my employers and would try and help them out - when I left my last job I still worked for them for 6 months to finish a major project - other people I guess could or would not be bothered.
     
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    Nope but it happens, people want to leave so get signed off sick so employers just let them go.
     
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    This basically. People just quit on the spot these days. Don’t worry about it.
     
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    Out of interest, do you tell you new employer that you pull a stunt like that?

    I know if I knew that I’d have second thoughts about hiring you. If you can’t honour the most elementary of agreements, then why would I trust you with any thing else?
     
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    Good point and it depends on the role I guess more senior roles for certain be frowned upon otherwise not sure it would matter?

    How desperate as an employer do you need someone to do the job? sure can you just start next week no probs?

    I have had loads of people just not turn up / walked out over the years, it is not uncommon.
     
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    I know we’ve gone off thread pulling everything prezzy says apart but....


    My main issue is the OPs employer expecting them to break contract! I’d be worried about working for them.

    They can’t be stupid and must realise they will have to work a notice period so to expect them to start Before the notice period is out of order IMO.
     
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    Agree, although whilst the OP states they want him in less than a week, did the actual company say the same? Did they actually enquire about the notice period as going by this thread the OP doesn't even know it themselves? As such, even if the conversation was held it seems unlikely it was held using factual information.
     
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    Yes you’re right, perhaps the OP can give a bit more information on what is actually going on
     
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    In my experience notice periods are not enforceable.

    In my contract, and those of most of my peers it states a three month notice period but I'm not aware of anyone that has done more than a month. In fact if an employer held us to three months we would have good argument that they are making finding a new job very difficult because few new employers would be prepared to wait that long.

    More usual is the same as your payment cycle - so one week if paid weekly and one month is paid monthly.

    At the end of the day there is not much an employer can do if you just announce that you are leaving at the end of the week. They can moan but in the end they won't do anything. They can't hold pay for days worked. The only thing to be creaful about is the nature of the business. If it is a close knit community and you are staying in the same line of work then you may get a little mud associated with your name.

    Cheers,

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    As stated, notice periods are really not enforced lower down the rungs. It would be different if you were a MD/CEO etc but as a general grunt, you can pack up and leave with no repercussion.

    Your actual notice period will be in your contract. Most are a week to a month. Anything over that is generally reserved for people who are considered 'harder' to replace.
     
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    In my industry most people just don’t come back in !

    A lot of the time we’re glad though as it tends to mean either work is done incorrectly or their not very productive.
     
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    I'm presuming they've said they need you to start immediately or else they will need to employ someone else? Otherwise if they've just said as soon as possible, they are expecting your response to be "my notice period is one week/month"
     
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    When I left my last job back in 1999 my contract was 1 month notice and they received 1 weeks notice.
    I also took them to a tribunal and they challenged it and was clearly told by the panel of 3 that notices are just company procedures and they can’t be held.
    Watching a Director being put down was an interesting experience as well as their HR.
     
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    In my industry anyone above a certain grade will be on three months notice and they will be sent home for it. They can't do their job effectively if they are 'leaving' - but the current employer doesn't want them you take all their strategic competitive knowledge straight over the road - it needs to decay a bit. Consequently there are long lead times to get people in the door.
     
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    Same here, with a few added bits. But most importantly is your reputation.
     

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