Discussion in 'Sky Digital TV Forum' started by Rookies, Oct 19, 2005.
How much is sky HD going to cost compare to what I pay now for Sky + which is £34 per month
there are many threads about this already, try the search button
Have done but not found prices
no one knows mate I'm afraid. In fact from the last article we saw sky may not even have decided yet.
talking to a gent in the daily mail's new mag launch yesterday, it will apparently be around £15 extra a month, sounds like a bit too much to me.
I would cut out my sky sports if that was the case.
I had heard somewhere it would be about £10 a month more on top of full package - if so I would go for it
400 notes for the box and 10 a month more than the 42.50 sky world package is the most prominate rumor for sure. It certainly hasn't been confirmed by sky though.
Personally at 300 and 10 a month I'd be happy and 400 and 10 a month I'd likely still get it. More than that I'd probably manage to wait untill the price comes down.
thats what prices i have heard being rumoured at work for the new boxes and the subscription packages.
Also have heard a rumour that sky may be doing a deal for existing sky + customer of a new box hd box for £50-100 if they trade in their existing one,
not sure if customer will have free installation on if yet or not.
im hoping i can trade in my + box to get a HD box cheap, would be willing to pay up to £100 at most tho.....or £250 without a trade in......over that and they having a laugh.....£400? nah, not worth it, i'll wait a year....
however i reckon if im paying for the full packages plus a multiroom sub i should get the HD access incl.......its not like everything is in HD, only some movies and sports to begin with from what i remember.....wow....that'll be worth it...honest...er...if i have to pay i'll wait till around half of my viewing is likely to be in HD....
not being tight, but £62 a month is starting to get a little too silly....
Maybe Sky figure that if you can afford £2000 for a screen, then you won't have any problems finding cash for the box & subscriptions ?
Im holding off on Sky+ at the moment to see what happens. Seems a shame you might need to have the full subscription plus whatever they charge for HD. I only wanted the sports package for Sky+ and even then i wouldnt watch a great deal of it.
I hope they come up with a package for the basic channels plus HD, rather than having to have all the other crap forced on you.
I thought the suspected price for the box at first was on the high side, but when you look at the price for other HD PVR boxes (and even non PVR) it doesnt look too bad really.
In Norway we paid £40/month to get about 20 average channels on satellite (THAT you can start calling silly).
I don't mind paying £65/month for the HD package
My info says that the HD Sky box will be priced at the same level as the existing 'Sky 160' box, to give the impression that you are getting something extra for free.
Try here for some sketchy info if you haven't already seen it:
No price info though, or even a firm-ish release date. Just '2006'.
that is true to an extent....altho if you just blew £2,000 on a screen you might not be able to find another £400 for a box..at least not for a while...lol
my problem comes from working in advertising, and knowing that a company like Sky gets enormous profit from the companies that run adverts between TV programs.....especially when you consider there are usually 3-4 advert breaks in an hour these days!......so tbh there is no reason they couldnt do the HD boxes a bit cheaper, or for someone who already has the full works package with multiroom give them either the box heavily reduced (part ex a sky+ box for it if they want) or charge for box but give them the HD content at no charge (even if just for a year say)......as i've said before, the HD content will actually be quite small from Sky for a while, few film channels and some sports.....but i know that any form of tech always overcharges the first takers (i upgrade my own puter once i've bought it so i know this from graphics cards...lol)
sadly, at the end of the day its all down to sky having the monoply on satellite and hd services in the uk - they can charge what they like
and yes i'm sure that pert of their thinking is that the current hd sets are expensive - ergo the customer can afford their hd charges!
interestingly a little bird told me that sky hd will not initially be available through comet/currys etc but through specialist av retailers only - and said little bird works for one of said retailers
I'm going to use the lever of quitting sky if I don't get a good deal on Sky HD.
I realise that i'll have to cancel if they don't give me a deal, but after buying my digibox and paying every month since 1998, i'm fed up with paying for hundreds of channels I don't want and haven't got time to watch.
I would be quite happy to buy the HD box and pay a reasonable price for just the HD channels.
It probably won't happen though, so it will be bye bye Sky.
It will be interesting to see if SKY create a HD only package but considering the cost of Premium content you would imagine that any price tag would be so close to the SD/HD package it would not be really attractive.
Perhaps when the BBC/ITV, CH4 and Five join the party then the huge amount of content they have that can be shown in HD will make things more viable.
If the BBC do launch something significant in 2006 then you will have an option of a FTA HD STB which will also get all the SD FTA channels.
Actually considering the BBC have solid plans for HD and NTL/TW will be offering HD and there are already FTA HD receivers on the market I actually think SKY have little or no monopoly on HD in the UK. Factor in a future IPTV service and other broadband solutions the future is certainly no Dsat only (which SKY doesn't control anyway).
Granted SKY have sports and movie contracts but VOD is a seperate entity and there are thousands of movies that are free to be bought by non subscription channels who also have the rights to far more US content than SKY has.
It's just a question of SKY's rivals taking the risk and investing the millions required, perhaps the BBC/ITV freesat venture will lay out a HD roadmap which could tempt some broadcasters to a FTA committment.
I spoke to SKY to order my SKY+ last night........eventually. The guy told me that they were all briefed a couple of weeks ago about HD. They were apparently told that possibly the middle of 2006 there would be some test transmissions and not likely to be broadcasting til late 2006.
I appreciate the fact that this is very probably untrue and probably a rouse to keep people taking up SKY+. If though this was the case I would be most disappointed especially in world cup year.
I have recently bought the Samsung LE41R32BX HD ready display in the belief that by world cup time, HD/HD+ would be available. Is there any more info available on release dates?
I thought March 06 would have been the most likely outcome and therefore SKY+ would keep me going for 6 months or so.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
purely as speculation, i would imagine Sky will be broadcasting HD stuff within the first few months of 2006, but i wouldnt imagine the amount of content will be fantastic....
they will probably be broadcasting the world cup in HD, but dont BBC still own the right to those? i may be wrong, dont shoot me, i dont follow football so im just going on what i vaguely remember hearing, in which case Sky will only be rebroadcasting.....
whether or not BBC will be kicking out HD digital transmissions is anyones guess...lol if the bad boys return to eastenders proves fruitfull, who knows....lol
James did say the first half of 2006 in a speech not so long ago, I would be very surprised if they did not meet that target and it would not surprise me either for CS reps to be encouraging the take up of SKY+ be downplaying the arrival of SKY+ HD.
Content wise it's a throw back to the early days of SKY.
SKY Sports, SKY Movies (2 channels), SBO, SKY1, Artsworld and perhaps channels from National Geographic, Discovery and EURO1080.
Not too shabby but only the individual can decide if those channels in HD are worth the cost of the hardware and subscription.
The BBC and ITV own the World Cup rights and you would assume that the UK HD broadcasts would be their property unless they were willing to let those rights lapse or do a deal with a third party.
I can see the BBC offering HD on Dsat using the SKY+ HD EPG (and FTA HD receivers) to supply some of the WC maybe not live but perhaps delayed, anything else would be a real bonus.
The thought that keeps coming into my head is why would you want to pay £400 for a box and over £50 per month to watch RUBBISH in HiDef?
Reminds me of the arguments I used to have on this site years back, when people used to say things like they loved to show their mates 'Film X' because the picture and sound were fantastic, even though 'Film X' itself was pure tripe.
The real important thing here is the quality of the program/film, not the quality of the picture (perhaps others will disagree).
Well I suppose it comes down to what you consider to be rubbish and what others do, personally I like Hollywood movies, I like Prem Footy and I like most of the US imports on SKY1. Can't get enough documentaries so prgoramming from Disc/NG & even EURO1080 will provide those.
Assuming the SKY sub hits £50 (or over) the majority of that is likely to be the main SD package, I get hours of enjoyment from that already so any HD premium is just that, a viable percentage increase.
I certainly won't be watching program X just because it's in HD as you say the content is the deciding factor but if it's in HD then woohoo, same principle as buying a movie on DVD even if it's on VHS. If you like the program/movie and if you can afford to watch it in the best possible quality in the domestic enviroment then why deny yourself?
Big plus of HD is that is will not be affecting the SD channels, they will all remain so if you do not want HD or are not in a position to buy into it straight away you won't suffer.
Just bought a 32" HD ready LCD for £800 (though that is in bedroom so won't ever get HD - unless the 2nd outlet on the HD box is HD....some hope).
£400 for box seems fine to be - tech costs in the first instance. However its the monthly charge that seems out of order. I don't recall a premium for digital over analogue went it switched.
£15, or even £10 a month on top of the full subscription is too dear IMO. Same for Sky+, rather than pay £10 a month I bought a DVD/HDD recorder, only upgrading to Sky+ when it was free with premium channels.
Does anyone know what the file sizes of saved HD content come out to? I was just wondering how big the hard disk in the box would have to be to provide any worthwhile amount of storage.
At The Ideal Home Expo SKY said they would be releasing SKY HD in March - they didn't have prices on anything
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