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How good are these speakers?

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by Malky1903, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Malky1903

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    Been offered a 5.1 speaker package fairly cheap. They are Kenwood speakers and about 6 years old. Would there be a very noticable difference in sound quality between these speakers and a new set at say, £350? They would be getting hooked up to a brand new amp, possibly the Pioneer VSX D812.

    Specs listed below.

    Front & Centre

    System.............2 way 3-speaker
    Enclosure...........Acoustic air suspension
    Woofer.........130mm cone type x 2
    Tweeter........25mm blanced dome type
    Nominal impendence........6
    Max input power.......100W
    Rated input power.........35W
    Sensitivity......89db/W at 1m
    Freq. response........55hz - 20,000hz
    Crossover freq. .........4,000hz

    Rears

    As above but with a Freq. response of 65hz - 20,000hz

    Subwoofer

    Enclosure....Bass-reflex floor standing type
    Loudspeaker.......250mm cone type
    Nominal impendence......6
    Max input power........100W
    Rated input power........50W
    Sensitivity............90db/W at 1m
    Freq. response.........40hz - 2,500hz

    Looking for an opinion before I throw some money down the swanny that could have been better spend on new speakers.
     
  2. ShinObiWAN

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    Spec mean nothing really, sure they give you an overview of the expected performance but nothing concrete and above all they are the manufacturers specs which can be over optimistic in some cases.

    I'd recommend listening to them and then getting a demo of a speaker package around the £350 mark. One such package is the Morduant Short Premier Setup which is £300 from richer sounds and is a good starting point in home theater and a good match for the Pioneer 812.

    Personally I'd be inclined to go with the new 5.1 package rather than the old Kenwoods but then again if your getting them for a stupidly ridiculous price then you could get them and upgrade later. I'm sure you'd notice big improvements that way too.
     
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    Thanks for the info ShinObiWan
    I'm just weighing up my options at the moment.
    Are the Morduant Short's wall mountable?
     
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    ShinObiWAN,
    I'm also interested in the MS package or the MS Premier Plus package. Are you familiar with these? I'm getting my first AV package, want it to be good with music and dvds. Am willing to pay up to £800 for speakers, and then the receiver on top of that. (I am also looking at the new KEF eggs, but am not really sure about the centre on them, and whether it really is good value for money.) Speakers must be smallish. Had thought about the Monitor Bronze stuff, but even the B2 or B1 MIGHT be too big for my space and my wife's tastes.

    Do you have any suggestions for me?

    I'd also heard that the Yamaha 640 AMP / Receiver would be a good match for the MS premiers. Can you comment? Have you heard the premiers with the Pioneer, or with the Yamaha?

    Thanks for your help.
    Jim
     
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    Hi Rainbow,

    The Kef egg's are extremely wife friendly!

    The Mordaunts look good too and the premier plus satellites are tiny but still sound good.

    As for experience with the premiers, I've heard them at Richersounds when I went with my nephew to help him choose a setup. He did eventually go for Athena P5 system but was impressed with the Mordaunts and it was a close thing but we felt the Athena offered more bass from the larger cabinets.
     
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    My son was playing around and he suddenly pushed one of my large speaker and bang it fell on the floor.

    Would the speaker easily damage or break if they fall once or twice?

    I checked the speaker nothing has been broken and the sound is still ok but still not sure.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks
     
  9. ShinObiWAN

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    Either flog the hifi or get rid of the kids!

    The two don't mix.
     
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    That's a very nice suggestion ShinObiWAN, you do that when YOUR son or when you have one push or break one of your things.

    I was just asking if the internal parts of the speaker might have been damaged by falling on the floor.
     
  11. Rainbow6

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    Easy, guys! We're supposed to be helping one another.;)
    Look mate, if your speaker still works, then happy days. If any problems develop, sound distortion, etc., perhaps you'll want to take it in to the folks you bought from, and ask their advice. I don't know enough about speakers yet to know how to answer you. But I have a weeyun too, and I sympathise. I'm about to buy speakers, and am still undecided. But getting childfriendly speakers are on my mind.
    All the best, and I hope your kit is ok.
    Jim
     
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    Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

    Just idle banter on my part.

    I'm no expert but I'd suggest you do the following to check for damage:

    -Listen to the speakers with a familiar piece of music/soundtrack and note if it sounds different.

    -Play at a high volume to check for unsightly mechanical noises comming from the drive units in the speaker that was knocked.

    -Go in close to the individual drive units of the speaker and listen for any differences between it and the speaker that wasn't knocked.

    -Check the cabinet joints for signs of stress or damage.

    -If possible check for lose parts inside the cabinet by rotating it carefully and listening for bits moving inside.

    If all sounds normal then your both laughing and lucky. Apart from damaging the cabinet, a knock such as the one you describe can damage the speakers inside the cabinet because of the forces involved and the delicate nature of speakers.

    I don't have children of my own but my brother does bring his around on a weekly basis and I rarely allow them in the AV room because of this sort of thing. Hifi cost a fair amount and young children can make it even more expensive.

    Hope all is ok by the way.
     
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    ShinObiWan

    Thanks alot for your advice.
     

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