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How do Rel ST range perform in home theatre?

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by Mark Ward, Jun 3, 2002.

  1. Mark Ward

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    For use with my other speakers (see sig file) and an MC-1, how would Rel ST range perform?

    I know they're geared more towards music, but I've seen good S/H deals on both a Strata II & a Stadium I. The Stadium has no Phonos so I'll need a Phono:XLR lead but that's not a problem.

    Cheers,

    Mark.
     
  2. Ian J

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    I have Storm 1 with my AVC 10 and am very pleased with it having moved up from a Q Bass.

    Most of my neighbours who crowded into my living room yesterday were very impressed with the depth charging scene from U 571.

    Bear in mind that REL wire up their XLR plugs differently from norm if you intend to buy one off the shelf.

    I also had my eye on the Strata but my wife put her foot down and if you are looking at the £700 Stadium I tried to convince my wife that it was a dining room table but she wouldn't wear that either.
     
  3. Nic Rhodes

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    I don't know, some people really push their luck, why don't you use a small compact sub like the rest if us?;)
     
  4. Nic Rhodes

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    ST range is quite good, it is an order of magnitude better than the Q200 and 150. You would enjoy it.:)

    Local dealer had these:

    http://www.petertyson.co.uk/inside.html

    REL STADIUM 2 SUBWOOFER £ 700.00
    REL STENTOR MK1 SUBWOOFER £ 300.00

    If you have the room the slightly older but better models are better value IMHO.
     
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    The Stadium 2 is ex demo in cherrywood and seems to be great value at £700 when people are paying more for the Q range.

    It is big which will put some people off but won't look too bad in some people's rooms.

    If I could fit it in I would have snapped it up ages ago and the same goes for your "compacts" Nic
     
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    I have heard better subs for HT-duties than the REL ST-range, but for music, they are one of the best. They make themselves audibly "invisible" very easily. You might however also listen to alternatives from BagEnd (a friend of mine has a Stentor and he thinks the BagEnd Infrasub-18 is much, much better and asks me every month when I am going te sell it... :)), Velodyne, Sunfire, Mirage, VanderSteen etc. Most are US subs and not all are readily available however.

    From the REL range, I think you should look at the Stentor to match the quality of the rest of your equipment.
     
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    Germantz,
    I think the Sunfire should not even be mentioned in the same breath as the others. Its inovative yes. Its small and powerfull. Its also awful IMO

    Chip
     
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    Not so. I tried the Sunfire True Subwoofer Signature and it was brilliant. Not as musically adept maybe as the best, but still just tuneful and fast enough and downright wicked with LFE. I was never able to overdrive it under any circumstances.

    Size can be a consideration for some.
     
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    Being able to withstand being overdriven is not the only criteria for a subwoofer. The True is the most inaccurate sub I've heard. Its terrible.

    Chip
     
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    Right. Don't get agitated now, will you? ;)

    Well, it does sound a bit plasticky, but with careful calibration and placement away from walls (< 1 m), you can still get satisfying results IMHO. And it needs to be run in for quite some time for the cone surrounds to get more flexible.
     
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    Garms,
    Did I sounded agitated?. I was mearly putting my views forward.
    Too right it does. Its dreadfull. All muscle and no finesse.
    You've obviously never seen the average british living room. We just don't have the space to keep things away from walls.

    Chip
     
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    I was just referring to your avatar. Never mind, bad joke...
     
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    If u get a chance, audition the Velo HGS-18...
    Mental sub!

    Adzman
     
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    No it was a good joke but Chops obviously hasn't got a sense of humour.
     
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    I don't understand why people say a sub good for music isn't good for home cinema.
    What would you prefer - a sub which faithfully reproduces the LFE signal it is sent or one which adds boom?
    Obviously the former is preferable. The latter seems to be what some people think is more suitable for home cinema. Alvin Gold being one. I completely disagree with this point of view.
    If a subwoofer is good for music - i.e. it reproduces the low frequences authentically then by definition it will be good for home cinema.
    In my opinion there shouldn't be any distinction between using a sub for music or movies. In both cases you want the sub to produce the bass (and LFE channel) which your other speakers can't as close to the signal it is being sent as possible.
    Some people undoubtedly like their subwoofer to exaggerate the bass - but this is not what the director intended. If these same people then harp on about insisting on the original aspect ratio, they are being hypocrits IMO.
     
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    Well said Stuart.:) I agree 200%.:D
     
  17. Mark Ward

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    So no Maplins adapter for this then?

    From a Single Phono to REL XLR which wire goes where? Would standard (non-shielded speaker wire be adequate for a short run?

    Cheers,

    Mark.
     
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    I have a Rel Q400 for sale if your interested?

    See Classified Ad.

    There may be some play with the price too. if your interested?

    Graham.
     
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    Pins are numbered 1,2 and 3. Pins 1 and 2 are the signal pins,
    these can be connected together and to the inner core of a screened cable, pin 3 connects to the outer screen of the cable.

    The above is from an email received from eric@rel.net who is very helpful. I bought an off the shelf phono - xlr cable and took it down to the local TV repairman to resolder the pins. It is easy enough to do yourself if you are handy with a soldering iron, which I am not.
     
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    I had an XLR to Phono made for my First Storm 1 - I would recommend a WBT phono plug terminated at the opposite end.

    IMO it offers a really good connection to the SUB-OUT which is on a par with the XLR - its also Lockable too.

    Graham.
     

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