Home theater question (pros just left)

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    1. fahimaz7

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      So I have a mixed-use room that I'm going to throw a 75" TV in and a 5.1-type system. I just had the local pro guys over to look at the options and to do the install and their recommendations caught me off guard...

      They are recommending the Sonos Playbar for the front 3 speakers, the Sonos sub, and Sonace VP66 speaker in the rear. This particular person feels that it rivals any other 5.1 system on the block, including some of the $50k systems in my neighborhood, and that it will out perform and 5.1 system that I try to put into the space.

      When I talked to him about a dedicated AVR, 5.1 system (Pro-cinema 1000 for example) he held his ground and thinks the Sonos system will outperform it..

      Any of you have experience with this particular type of setup? I know there is a Sonos 5.1 system (Playbar, sub, Play 1's), but apparently the combination noted above is a real nice system?

      Should I fire this guy and stick to the AVR + 5.1 build? Thoughts?

      PS. I'm going to be using this room exclusively for movies and sports.
       
    2. citywalker

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      Strange pro guys... Maybe they are just somehow Sonos addicted...
      What is your budget for sound ?
      Room layout, maybe some restrictions there?
       
    3. mb3195

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      There is absolutely no way that a Sonos sound bar will outperform a dedicated amp and speakers.

      As mentioned, what is your budget and room layout.
       
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      Sounds like they've got some Sonos overstock they're trying to shift ;)

      Sonos is great and convenient, but there's no way that system will rival a $2k system let alone a $50k one - it's pure fantasy and I would be strongly doubting their judgement / capabilities.
       
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      I am shocked a so called 'professional' would say such a thing. I would not let them touch anything within your home following a statement like that.

      Sonos stuff is great but it is a lifestyle system and has many compromises, compared to a dedicated system. heck Give me £1000 and I'll put a system together that could easily outperform the Sonos.

      As stated above

      Layout?
      Budget?

      have you listened to any set ups? have you got a local shop where you can demo some bits?
       
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      Perhaps he has shares in Sonos. Think I'd rather build my own, far far better 5.1 system.
       
    7. fahimaz7

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      Budget is variable. This setup is likely 3k USD after the in-wall mounting of the rears. Room is 14x20. There is a wall in the back against the sofa. 10 foot ceilings. Sony X900 75 inch up front.
       
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      Always remember they are there to make money.
      The good ones are also there to provide a good solution.
       
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      I have both, I use a sonos soundbar, sonos sub, sonos 1 in the secondary TV room and it works really well. But it's not a patch on the main TV room with a dedicated AMP and speakers.
       
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      'This particular person' - would be worth ignoring :)

      'I'm going to be using this room exclusively for movies and sports' - any thoughts on going with a Projected image instead of a TV?

      Room/Room Layout - do you have a floor plan showing seating etc?

      Loudspeakers - if you want 'visible' loudspeakers do you any preference for a 'style' of Loudspeaker?

      If you want the 'Soundbar' look you have some options with passive Speakerbars you can use in conjunction with a conventional AVR.

      Loudspeakers - 'In-wall' all round is another option if that would be your preference.

      SONOS - do you have any Zone players around the house and or is that a consideration?

      Joe
       
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      If you do decide to go the projection route (which I personally recommend) I wouldn't entertain the thought of using a soundbar. The sound just isn't big enough to compliment a 100 inch screen. Go the 5.1 route.
       
    12. Ste7en

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      I want a Sonos for the Living Room. TV is in the corner - parent style - so it'd be ideal for us. Besides, I can sneak extra speakers in without the Mrs noticing :)

      She looks in my room and her face drops when I mention installing it all in the Living Room.
       
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      I had a sonos 5.1 system and was very disappointed in the sound,got rid of it after a couple of months, it doesn't touch a dedicated 5.1 system with separate amp in my opinion, I'd be seriously considering swapping your so called Pro guys out for someone that actually knows what they are talking about
       
    14. Cameron583

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      Not sure where they're coming from - I switched from a Playbar & Sub to 685 S2 and a B&W PV1. Much better sound from the B&W, and more versatility :)
       
    15. big boss

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      It’s not just perception. Sonos Playbar does not support HDMI and so cannot decode HD audio codecs.
       
    16. Dunners

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      There are 'custom integrations' out there who only sell Sonos as they only want to learn one solution. They come into the AV industry after expanding out of the security, electrician or IT industries - so there's no audio background as such, but it's extra revenue for them.
      In Sonoss defence there's not much in the way of 'confusing buttons' or things that people can stuff up without going looking for trouble. Whereas complicated remotes and control systems can cause their customers headaches and truck rolls. So, if they can fit and forget, they're into it. The problem is, it's not a solution for everyone, but they don't necessarily have the skill to integrate products that performance fanatics are interested in.

      I've said it once, I'll say it again - Sonos is the new Bose people.
       
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      I'm a bit late arriving on this thread, but I'm amazed to hear that a dealer would say that. I truly would have loved being in the room at the time when they said that a Sonos system would match a $50k systems. You would have had to carry me out on a stretcher :laugh::rotfl:

      I would find another installer.

      As others have said, they maybe overstocked and trying to get rid or they are picking the easiest system to setup where they can charge big bucks without having to do much work.

      If anyone ever says that you again, just ask them a simple question, "Will it do Atmos, DTS Master Audio or Dolby Digital HD". A Sonos system will not and if you are creating a bespoke cinema, then these are the things that should be as important to you as a large TV or Projector and light control.

      Good luck finding another installer over the water.
       
    18. stuart07970

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      Gotta say how much I agree with you.
      Sonos is very convenient, and is a solution for many applications - but not your main setup. Well, certainly not on here - on Mumsnet.........maybe?
       
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      I have a few sonos systems in the house and for what they do, they're good, However, my dedicated 5.1 system is head and shoulders better.

      As mentioned, find another installer. May I ask why you need one? What specifics of your room are making you want to an expert in?

      Cheers

      T1b
       
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      ...and where are our manners???

      Welcome to the forums fahimaz7!

      We are a UK based forum so everyone is welcome.
      Just don’t try and sell that 75” TV on here as I the shipping will be expensive!

      A separates system will almost always outperform some lifestyle gizmo, provided you got the space for it.
      Plan a nice AV receiver (I like the Yamaha’s) and floorstanding speakers, and scale it back from there if you need to.

      Good luck sir!
       
    21. fahimaz7

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      So I rejected the first guys and went with the second...

      Marantz 1608 AVR
      Monitor Audio bronze 6 towers
      MA bronze 2 center
      MA W265 in walls for rear
      MA bronze sub
      Sony 75 x900 tv

      $7k for the hardgoods.

      Should be great. Thanks again guys.
       

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