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Hitachi PJ-TX200 impressive !!

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by camorra, Sep 8, 2005.

  1. camorra

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    Guyz

    This is my first post here but I like projectors too even if i don't own one.

    I've been to the IFA in Berlin and I have witnessed the new CineMaster PJTX200 at the Hitachi stand. I was curious since Hitachi were claiming a Contrast ratio of 5000:1. Well, that figure maybe exaggerated, but pretty close I must say!! Never seen such blacks from an LCD projector before, even from high end ones. In Germany I was told, will list price at Euro2,000. Considering specs such as HD-Ready, HDMI input, 1280x720 resolution, 1200 Ansi Lumens, and 5000:1 (??) contast ratio amongst other features looks like a bargain.

    At least to me, it is the best I ever saw knocking off all competition there even the ones with a much higher price tag.

    There was also I think a debut in projectors from LG, but actually picture is crap, pure crap!!

    I maybe not so in projector things but projector gurus here can surely comment on my post and correct me if I'm wrong.

    Thanks & Cheers :hiya:
     
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    I'm sure it will be the usual bun fight between the Z4 / AE900 and TX200.

    They'll all no doubt be very good if the specs are to be believed, so good infact that we'll all be convinced that the one they own is better then the others. Which is the way it should be.

    I wonder if Hitachi have made the TX200's case any easier to remove?...PJ ;)
     
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    Jeez the £1500 market is really hotting up, i wonder how long it will take for them to fall to the grand mark, mind by then i will be looking and waiting for the next model up :p
     
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    ...or spending your wonga on HD...
     
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    Hi to all....
    I'm looking to buy my first proj.....and I'm considering TX-200, Z4, and AE900 as many of you out there.....but you forgot TW600 from Epson.......it looks really competitive, and I hope to see it this week end at italian T.A.V. (TOP AUDIO & VIDEO).

    Can't wait to see all these great proj in actions.....camorra could you expand a little on the proj you have seen of the above and how the TX-200 compares?

    I'm interested in daylight viewing, too....as I my room is not totally light controlled...

    :hiya:

    Roberto
     
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    Congratulations. You are the first to ask a question which over the next 6 to 12 months will be asked countless times, all with different answers.

    I think the real answer is that they will all be good, and will continue the tradition of offering increasingly better quality for less money.

    But until people actually have bought them, subjected them to extensive testing / home viewings, written reviews about them etc etc it's a little early to guess how one fares against the other...PJ :)
     
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    The PJ's are getting better but the bulbs are staying the same.

    It's okay to have a 5000:1 contrast ratio PJ but where are the 10,000hr bulbs?
     
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    bulbs do stay the same but i do think that you can get a fair ammount of use out of it. ive had my projector running since feb and clocked about 240hrs. i personally thought id done more but by the time i get to about half its life id expect to actually have upgraded. this probably would be the case with most projector owners IMO.
     
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    This is the current dilemma for me - I'm considering going for a Z3 (currently own an AE100), but do I bother paying the extra £120 for a "free" lamp voucher or not? Suppose that as it is HD ready, I'll probably get a good few years out of it so may need the extra bulb?

    Decisions, decisions, decisions...
     
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    I'm more or less in the same boat (I own a PTAE200). Like you, i'm currently torn between the various options :confused: (Z3 without extra lamp, Z3 without extra lamp or perhaps one of the new breed of projectors). As far as the Z3 options are concerned it's a question of how much you use the projector and whether you want to play the odds. I think £120 is a lot to pay for a lamp you may never need (unless of course you're thinking of racking up some serious hours of viewing time). Personally, i'm going to wait a week or two to get a better impression of the new range but unless there's one priced at around £1000 (unlikely) i'll probably opt for the cheapo Z3 option without the extra lamp.
     
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    Im an AE100 owner too and still impress people with it lol. Ive started looking at the new flux of projectors coming out and will either go for a Z3 or AE700 when the prices are slashed in the next month or two or spoil myself and get a 5000:1 LCD pj and then panic about the bank account later. Must make more money!

    Who wants to buy a tea bag, only used once?
     
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    It seems that stocks of the Z3 are running pretty low, so we may not see prices come down much more, if at all.
     
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    I was also at IFA and did the tour of the projector stands. Did you notice how just about every projector manufacturer made sure their projectors were driven with a HD source?

    What was obvious from IFA was that source quality and room lighting conditions still play a big part in final image quality. The LG you mention was in an open booth and running on a large screen in relation to the viewing distance compared to most other manufacturers.

    I thinks there's no doubt that projectors are getting better by leaps and bounds each year, but until you can see the results with DVD satellite and the rest of our everyday sources it's a little early to declare a winner.

    Regards
     
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    Lamp technology is actually evolving, it just doesn't make the headlines.

    It's easy to make an endurance lamp. You make it big so it cools quick, use a large spark gap for lower power consumption and better uniformity of brightness and give it a long focal length so you can use the most efficient reflector shape. It would also be convenient if you could forget about both colour accuracy and colour temperature uniformity as the lamp ages and also bang in some big fans to keep it cool. What you've got now is a not-very-bright lamp that'll only work in a projector the size of a microwave and that's just as noisy :rotfl:

    Regards
     
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    Well, if the TX200 is less prone to vertical banding, I'll bite. I sent my TX100 in because of particularly mad vertical banding. If it wasn't for that, it would be great. If the TX 200 is like the 100 only with better contrast, then awesome.
     
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    Hi
    be very wary of Hitachi projectors specifications again last night had to endure the fan noise of my pj 100 it sounds like a 737 landing it was sold with incredibly quiet fan noise specs, i am appalled at it!!!! the best bit is that if the room is slightly warm the fan increases to normal from whisper BUT NEVER GOES BACK TO WHISPER!!! i hate this projector!!!!!! now have the go ahead fom the wife who is p###ed off with it to change it .....will not be buying hitachi again...have you tried to deal with their head office!!! say no more :thumbsdow

    please don't start me on dust blobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsdow

    it's a shame as the picture performance is graet overall

    Thx
     
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    The TX200 is by far the slowest of all these projectors to be released and tested. I won't mind if that means the projector will have good quality control etc.

    I am un-patiently waiting for a review of this projector. I can understand that Hitachi is releasing it in November, but I was hoping for a review of this baby. :cool:
     
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    I have one sat in my dem room, they are available now!
     
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    Thats cool. Of course, over here in Canada and down in the US, nobody here has gotten their hands on one yet. I am waiting and waiting. Will somebody review this TX200? ;) benji_m perhaps?
     
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    You should'nt have to wait too long for independent reviews from users either here or on avsforums - these are by far the most best reviews to go on if you are not able to have a demonstration yourself. i realise someone has to buy it first before we get reviews of the standards of ROnes but wihtouta personal demonstration available to you, you may wish to hold fire for the user reviews to come in over the coming weeks.
     
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    Yeah, I take everything with a grain of salt. Its interesting to see the larger places review stuff, especially when you compare how the different place review things. The one review I will take quite seriously is cine4home. Their reviews have come across very thorough and professional. I also like independant reviews because they usually gives you first hand customer experience, and that is especially important for details like vertical banding and colour uniformity, the two lcd issues that haunt us all more than contrast, black level, screen door effect or peak-a-boo scanlines! When a large number of people on forums report back about the above issues, you can at least get a general sense for the frequncy that those issues may occur, and therefore what your odds are when buying an LCD projector.

    How are the AE900's and Z4's doing for vertical banding and colour uniformity thus far?

    Heck, I hope nobody in home theatre is a compulsive casino or lottery gambler, because we play the odds enough just buying these front projectors...lol... :p
     
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    A guy in Canada got his UDP J52 up and shining and its working well for him so far.

    Still waiting for reviews/shootouts to compare this and the Z4 vs AE900 vs Epson 550 vs Sony HS 51 vs HS 60...

    :)
     

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