Hiding cables up walls

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by markgodley, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. markgodley

    markgodley
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    Messages:
    6,864
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +2,469
    I'm looking to mount a tv to my wall later this week.

    looking to make this as tidy as possible. I understand i can chisel out the wall and hide them that way, i just don't fancy trying to filler the hole after (no doubt you will be able to tell).

    What other solutions are out there?
     
  2. FZR400RRSP

    FZR400RRSP
    Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2007
    Messages:
    32,038
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Aberdeen
    Ratings:
    +10,374
    I used self-adhesive half-moon trunking in the bedroom (only wall mounted TV we have).
    I was lucky that it came the same colour as our walls, but it can be painted any colour.
     
  3. kav

    kav
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2007
    Messages:
    25,494
    Products Owned:
    10
    Products Wanted:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    167
    Location:
    Scotland
    Ratings:
    +13,819
    If you want mess-free you can use trunking, the obvious downside being it creates a profile on the wall. Depending on where it is though, it can usually be hidden quite well. I have some in the corner of my kitchen and as it's painted the same colour as the rest of the wall you'd hardly notice it.
     
  4. markgodley

    markgodley
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    Messages:
    6,864
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +2,469
    Thanks just looking at trunking now (i think this was what i was after - just couldn't think of the name to search for).

    How well does this PVC paint?

    Are there any solutions that can feed the wires through if i was to make 2 holes (top and bottom). Kind of like a tool to grab the cable and pull it up/down. I saw some guys at work doing something similar when installing a new fobbing in section on a door.
     
  5. markgodley

    markgodley
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    Messages:
    6,864
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +2,469
    Sounds good, where did you get this from?
     
  6. FZR400RRSP

    FZR400RRSP
    Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2007
    Messages:
    32,038
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Aberdeen
    Ratings:
    +10,374
    B+Q
    With regard to painting, it's very smooth as standard.
    I'd imagine it would need 'keyed' (sanded) a bit to accept emulsion.
    Not difficult though.
     
  7. baker

    baker
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Messages:
    1,508
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Location:
    Woodbridge
    Ratings:
    +710
    What type of walls do you have?

    My house has dot & dab plasterboard... and its pretty easy to "tap" the walls to identify where there is a clean run to drop cables behind.

    Having wall-mounting my TV retrospectively a year or so after decorating (wall paper). I didn't fancy channeling or trunking... so I took a risk in the hope the airspace was sufficient...

    It was very tight, especially for 3 HDMI's & Ethernet. Although you can now get slim cables.
    IMG_1559.JPG
    Apologies for the poor before/after pictures, I found this on my phone taken with an iPhone 4... you don't realise how poor the phone camera is until you start taking pictures off.
    image1.JPG
     
  8. kav

    kav
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2007
    Messages:
    25,494
    Products Owned:
    10
    Products Wanted:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    167
    Location:
    Scotland
    Ratings:
    +13,819
    The material they're made from takes paint fine. If you were worried you could probably go over it with some fine sandpaper but not really necessary in my experience.

    You know that you can open the trunking to get the cable through, right? So you shouldn't have to struggle with grabbing the cable etc. However in case you will still need to do this, the easiest way is to get some strong string and tie something small and weighty (a heavy nail works well) to it, then drop it from the top (make sure you have secured the other end of the string at the top!).

    Then take off the nail when the string falls out the bottom, and use a clove hitch to make a strong but flat knot (keeps the profile narrow around your cable). Feed it back into the bottom hole then pull it from the top and it should come through for you.
     
  9. baker

    baker
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Messages:
    1,508
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Location:
    Woodbridge
    Ratings:
    +710
    Forgot to add, the final result was well worth the "squeaky bum" moment whilst drilling a 72mm hole into my wall-papered wall:smoke:
     
  10. markgodley

    markgodley
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    Messages:
    6,864
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +2,469
    I'm fairly certain it is dot and dab (which i believe is the plasterboard glued to the wall). That is my only concern is there wont be any room (i assume there is insulation between the inner and outta walls)?
     
  11. FZR400RRSP

    FZR400RRSP
    Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2007
    Messages:
    32,038
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Aberdeen
    Ratings:
    +10,374
    No offence, but I prefer the 'before' picture.:thumbsup:
    Once we do away with our fireplace, this is exactly the look I'm after (low unit with TV on stand).
     
  12. markgodley

    markgodley
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    Messages:
    6,864
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +2,469
    Also, do you have any caps to cover the holes?

    My tv will be on a twizzle stand so i'd like to keep it tidy as possible.
     
  13. baker

    baker
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Messages:
    1,508
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Location:
    Woodbridge
    Ratings:
    +710
    The gap will be about 10-12mm depending on how generous the builder was with the plaster. There will be no insulation between the brick and plasterboard.
    My initial plan was to mount a new back box and fit one of these.
    [​IMG]

    In the end I couldn't be faffed with the extra work and mess I'd need to have made to fit the box. I guess there is no reason why the front face plate couldn't be directly mounted to the wall without the back box... providing you can get the screws/rawplugs in the right places.


    The main reason was to get the screen away from grubby little fingers:nono:! Any parent of a toddler will know what I mean:D
     
  14. k17chy

    k17chy
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    6,104
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Billy Elliot country
    Ratings:
    +3,578
    I went down the ikea besta/framsta cabinet route. Hate cables showing. It's abit ott but I like it. False wall is another option.
     
  15. jonna

    jonna
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2002
    Messages:
    3,261
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Cheshire
    Ratings:
    +2,755
    A few good harsh tellings off first and if that doesn't work a swift old fashioned smack on the backside and they would soon learn.
    Ohhhh, I forgot, smacking children is frowned upon these days.
     
  16. BB3Lions

    BB3Lions
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2009
    Messages:
    14,716
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +6,614
    I built a 4" extension to the wall with everything hid behind. Allowed the tv to come out on a bracket for easy access too. Cost £200 including plastering.
     
  17. The Dude

    The Dude
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2004
    Messages:
    6,772
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Beverley, East Yorkshire
    Ratings:
    +3,241
    Just drill a 25mm hole through the wall behind the TV and run all the cables on the other side. :)
     
  18. FZR400RRSP

    FZR400RRSP
    Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2007
    Messages:
    32,038
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Aberdeen
    Ratings:
    +10,374
    The 'tellings off' worked for us, touching the telly is something neither of our kids did.
    So using the standard stand not an issue now that they're 12 and 6.
     
  19. markgodley

    markgodley
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    Messages:
    6,864
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +2,469
    Hmm 10-12mm doesn't seem that much room to get a plug cable through it. I assume you had to take the table from the bottom up (rather than feeding the plug through the wall). How did you get the cable up? With some string?

    Good to know the faceplate can be remove from the back section of those - they look ideal!
     
  20. jonna

    jonna
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2002
    Messages:
    3,261
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Cheshire
    Ratings:
    +2,755
    You could always build a false chimney breast using wooden stud work .
     
  21. baker

    baker
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Messages:
    1,508
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Location:
    Woodbridge
    Ratings:
    +710
    I dropped some weighted string down the hole, then pulled the cables up.

    I'm surprised I didn't think of mounting the face plate directly to the wall at the time, as I had all the parts ready :facepalm:... think I might try and find them in the garage and have a go at fitting them.
     
  22. The Dude

    The Dude
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2004
    Messages:
    6,772
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Beverley, East Yorkshire
    Ratings:
    +3,241
    The lid from 12mm trunking makes an ideal pokey-stick for getting behind plasterboard.
    Bend a 45deg hook facing toward you, this goes in first, then attach your cable to the straight end using electrical tape, and get fishing.. :)

    If it takes you more than 2 goes to find the other hole you should probably stick to knitting. :)
     

Share This Page

Loading...