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Hi 8 to DVD How?

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  1. Garrett

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    I’m thinking of getting a DVD writer and I have a lot of Hi8 tapes that I want to archive. What hardware (apart from the DVD burner) and software do I need?

    Also if I do go onto a digital medium to record rather than the Hi8 will I need different hardware to download it to the PC to edit it or burn it to a DVD?
     
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    Analogue capture card
    Authoring Software
    MPEG Encoder
     
  3. Garrett

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    Any suggestions and the price I'm looking at?
     
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    £40 pb tv-100 capture card
    (clean s-video input, FlyView 2000 clone)

    £165 200GB Seagate Barracuda, Maxtor or Western Digital hard disk.
    (Barracuda is quietest but slightly slower, Maxtor Plus9 is relatively quiet, wd200JB is fastest available and still fairly quiet. With drives this large, remember to format 80GB partitions max, unless you have a relatively modern M/B and have installed the Win XP 48-bit LBA addressing to allow safe use)
    HUFFYUV captures at full res 720x576 take about 22GB/hour
    Cleaned output from AVIsynth takes about 5hours/hour (assuming about a 2GHz processor and the faster disks like above) and take another 22GB/hour. Slightly smaller if cleaned and letterboxed at the same time. It's useful to be able to fix the chroma offset errors on some cameras here.

    amCap - Freeware capture
    Huffyuv losless codec - freeware
    AVIsynth - free script based video editor/processor

    £40 TMPGenc Plus - great MPEG2 encoder
    4.5GB/DVD to MPG2
    £40 TMPGenc DVD author - great DVD authoring tool.
    4.5GB/DVDto video_ts
    I think this can write to the DVD-writer itself, so no need for Nero, etc.

    £130 DVD-Writer (Pioneer DVR-106 oem- writes DVD-R and DVD+R blanks at 4x=15mins/DVD Reads at 6x if you enable verification)

    regards,
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    You can get DVD writers somewhat cheaper than this. For example the OEM version of the Panasonic Burner II is available for £90 inc VAT:
    http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=50918

    Paying £40 extra for a multi-format writer seems extreme to me - DVD-RW/-R and DVD+RW/+R have exactly the same functionality only the former is slightly more compatible than the latter. So why pay a £40 premium?
     
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    I capture analogue via video and sound cards, edit with the cheap ULead DVD package (can't remember which one I have), TMPGENC to encode above Ulead S/W to burn.


    TMPGENC can handle 16x9 or even convert 4x3LB to 16x9
     
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    I use 2 methods
    1) Vidac VMagic hardware encoder:
    S-video or composite input. Encode to MPEG2 in real time.

    2) Pinnacle studio capture card. S-video or composite in at 4GB per 20 mins AVI
    Use TmpGenc to convert to MPEG2


    Author and burn with Ulead DVD Workshop (can also use AVI files from (2) direct)

    Quality slightly better with (2) but takes a lot longer.
     
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    Why not get one of the Sony Digital8 camcorders. Some (not all) of these camcorders can play old Hi8 tapes that can then be captured via the firewire output on the camcorder to a cheap (£20 approx.) firewire card for the PC (if not already got one).
    This then gets you uptodate with a digital camcorder all in. You will still need editing/encoding software, but if you want to go digital anyway then this will be the cheapest and most direct route.

    Mark.
     
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    I thought of going that route, but will tape be replaced by a disc format a few years down the road? And I would have to buy (well not really) again if I was going to keep up with technology.
     
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    I think video cameras will stay tape based for a while yet - eg HD uses MPEG2 on DV tape.

    Data capacity of tape is still so much greater
     
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    I agree with Martin. I think tape based camcorders will be around for a long time yet!
    The capacity of a DVD camcorder is only 20 minutes at around the same quality as DV. To me this is far too short, I would even like the 60 minutes of a DV tape to be longer.

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    Will the length of recording onto a disc significantly improve when they bring in blue laser technology?
     
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    Yes - in rough handfuls if you recorded at the maximum allowed DVD bitrate you would would be able to record over 5 hours on a BluRay disk (as opposed to 1 hr on a DVDR). This refers to standard definition content obviously.

    That said we will not see a UK BluRay launch for around 24 months yet though. And then prices are unlikely to fall as quickly as they did for DVD recorders (it being a system that is likely to remain 'high end/home cinema' for sometime).
     
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    Ive got 90+ video8 & Hi8 tapes which i am putting onto dvd via digita8 ilink etc.
    And i can tell you from experience that if you want the best quality tranfer this is the way to go. However if you have only a few tapes its a bit expensive. You could try a ATI TV WONDER card not bad once you get the driver & software sorted. Ive found most software give poor results when encoding avi to mpeg2 the best is canopus procoder & the free TMPGenc nothing else comes close ?
     

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