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Hey Roland - how noisy is a 1209 ?

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by tiberious, Nov 14, 2001.

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  1. tiberious

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    ummmm - like the title !

    Was wondering if it was an issue ?- I cut out a piece of cardboard using the dimensions for this thing - oh,my GOD !!! - Hence the question (having said that, it appears to be a highly thought of machine)

    thanks mate
     
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    So long as the air can get out at the back you will surprised at how quite they are.

    They have 4 large 12volt fans which makes it much quiter than an 808 or Cine8. I beleive it to be quiter than it's other competitors Sony 1292 & G90, Electrohome 9500, NEC 9PG

    Air is drawn from the front around the lenses and expelled out the back. There is an additional fan in the middle of the cover which brings the air out of the convergence board.

    The size of the projector is an advantage becuase it has a metal sheild which absorbs a lot of the heat. the amount of air the fans can move is good and I have not had a compliant about noise yet.

    But be warned these are big buggers. that must have been some cornflake box.

    Spectre has one in his cinema lets see what he says.
     
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    My 1209 doesn't bother me at only a couple of feet from my head. It's quieter than my HCPC sat at the other end of the room. If I was building a complete home cinema from scratch I'd build the projector into the ceiling and have ducts take the air away in an attempt to reduce the noise completely. But that's not possible now. (That's one for the future, Roland!)
     
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    thanks guys

    - would ducting work Roland ? , I could probably do it, if all works out.

    How would you guys rank the 1209 in terms of quality - as good as it gets ? or below that !

    CHEERS
     
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    Once you get into 9" projectors getting a good picture is easy.

    Making it fantastic can take days, litrally. You have so much contol over every function that it is a both a joy and a nightmare to set up. On most projectors you think "if I could just get that bit sharp" on a 1209 you can. Once you get to this level of projector the set up becomes super critical (so does the customer come that)

    Always go for the "s" version which was able to handle component and HDTV direct.

    Always duct if you can, they are quite but ANY noise from kit in a home cinema is unwanted.

    The only projector I've ever seen beat a 1209 is the Barco Cine MAX with a Snell & Wilcox interpolator Gold and SDI feed.

    Having said that a projector is only as good as the eqipment that is feeding it. You would have to be prepared to put a decent scaller on the back with good quality cables.
     
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    The Case of the 1209 looks quite old, but do I see an IRIS there?

    how much are they second hand roland?
     
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    Barco never won any beatuy contests.

    First 1200 came on board in Jan 93. I took delivery of the First Four units in the UK whilst working for IBM. (They were the most unrelible projectors I ever handled untill the software was upgraded). They only came out of IBM last year.

    The 12** series chassis stayed the same but electronics and tubes changed much over the years. The 1209s was introduced in mid 96 and went out of production in late 1999 (a sad day at Barco. For tis my favorite projector, still.)

    Can't answer your last question here. ;)
     
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    lol

    much cost to price difference over my 801s?

    does it uphold the ratio?
     
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    Roland

    I hear you mate !!
     
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    Here's an idea for dealinig with noise from CRT projectors. It requires disconnecting fans though and some units will immediately go to standby when they "see" the fans as being off.

    This is an idea...not tried yet.....

    The idea is to draw cool air through the projector and the hot air to another area outwith the cinema. If possible I would try and run ducting from the rear of the projector and underneath (if ceiling mounted). Run this ducting to an external area or roof space...at he end of each section of ducting fit an expelair or large area fan. Wire these fans to SUCK air out the ducting.

    With some cunning design you should be able to create a hideous monster that's SILENT.....and cool.

    If anyone tries this let me know and take some pictures!

    Gordon
     
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    Do you think that would solve my problem?:blush:
     
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    801s new, I think was £11k
    1209s was £30k
     
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    I understand the 1209 to be among the very best video projectors suitable for home cinema.
    Fed with a HCPC, the picture quality is just absolutely fantastic. And my projector has 9,500 hours on it.
    If anyone wants to invest a couple of hours checking out my setup in Birmingham (in order to see for themselves the potential of HCPCs and 1209s - not as a sales exercise of any kind, but as a sharing of enthusiasm), so long as it's in office hours, then I'm happy to oblige.
     
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    It's been done.
    Hideous and Silent .......Cool?



    It can be done to the Barco range.
    The fan speed is increased as the temperature rises.
    Leave the sensors in place and put a few extra fans down the pipe.
    Should support about 2amps. (Existing fans draw milliamps at 12v) standard PC type fans.
     

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    Roland/Gordon, nothin gets past you pair!:D
     
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    We also have a 1209 in the ceiling - it's not silent, but it ain't bad.

    I might regret this, but if anyone wants to genuinely see a set up in the south of England (Petersfield, Hampshire) I'd be happy to oblige.
     
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    You CAN have a 1209 table mounted.
    Be prepared though, your room will be filled! :eek:
    [​IMG]

    The PQ from the 1209 is so great that the size/sound does not bother me.

    Buy one, I strongly recommend it!

    BTW, Spectre - What's your HCPC spec?

    Regards,
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    Richard,

    I would really like to see this puppy in action - If you are sure it would be okay, I`d love to set something up.I`m in Sutton in Surrey, so it`s a bit of a drive, but I`m sure I could sort it at a time which was convenient to you.

    Perhaps you would be good enough to send me an email/PM , and we can see how the land lies.

    Cheers mate
     
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    Richard,

    Lets have a forum day out to Snell and Wilcox!!!!!!

    We could have a picnic and everything.

    Roland: Told you it'd be hideous! (cool install though)

    Gordon
     
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    YIPPEE !!

    I`ll bring the cakes,sandwiches and lashings of Ginger Beer !!!
     
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    Not sure about the picnic - the croquet pitch takes up most of our lawn, and though the bank of the river is very pleasant for lounging on a summer afternoon, it's getting a little moist just now!

    However, if there is a suitable amount of interest I'm sure I could arrange a guided tour of the company and a suitable demo in the home theatre for a forum 'delegation'
     
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    I'll be there.
     
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    Fairly standard box - PIII700, 196 meg RAM, Pioneer 105, 40 meg HDD, Windows 2000, Pinnacle Win TV card, Fortissimo sound and GeForce MX video. Power DVD 4 and Win DVD3.something.
    I'm not upgrading anything since I'll be replacing it shortly with the Vision box which I can't talk about.
     
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    Richard: Shall I start a thread to organise this?

    Spectre: Re Sunday night chat and Dscaler. I believe the problem was a BETA version of the software and it wasn't configured ideally. The owner of said device has upgraded to working Dscaler and confirms it's excellent now. I look forward to seeing it in action!

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    Oh that would be the falcon card? Good, because Neil sings it's praises and it's important that it is good for other no-speak-about-able reasons :rolleyes:
    Thanks for the update.
     
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    Spectre,

    OK, since your specs are the same as mine, and I was thinking of an upgrade, should I wait for this non-talkable vision subject..?

    I understand if you can't answer, I just could not resist asking. ;)

    Regards,
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    I'd pm you but you have the feature disabled :(
     
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    Put my name down for this factory tour and demo!

    Thank you!:D
     
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    Put me down for a demo chaps:D
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    Enabled! :D


    Regards,
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